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Thought I'd fallen for the new wrangler...

Artemis

TJ Enthusiast
Jul 17, 2018
362
New Madison, Ohio
Love the color love the jeep.
Thanks! Yeah on the Jeep build site, I was a little cautious. So I waited to see one in person and I feel in love with the battleship grey! It's official name is stingray. In the sun, it's so creamy. Now I'm so ready for nice weather so I can get topless. O and you wouldn't believe how quiet this new soft top is!
 

glwood

Jeep # 13
Supporting Member
Sep 16, 2016
6,098
Albuquerque, NM
Thanks! Yeah on the Jeep build site, I was a little cautious. So I waited to see one in person and I feel in love with the battleship grey! It's official name is stingray. In the sun, it's so creamy. Now I'm so ready for nice weather so I can get topless. O and you wouldn't believe how quiet this new soft top is!
I still have yet to see a two door JL in person. I'd love to just take a ride, but I don't trust myself to not buy it.

Enjoy your new Jeep for a while before you start yanking things off of it!
 

XISophos

TJ Enthusiast
Supporting Member
Mar 30, 2017
242
Denver, CO, United States
Harley's only had 6-7% of the market share in the late 60's to the mid 70's and if AMF hadn't bailed them out they would be gone, so they adapted, advanced and grew to take up to over half of the market share in the US. Jeep needs to do the same thing or they will die like the dodge truck. Its not what I like or want but that is what the market is now. Tim
No doubt, and Jeep is doing the same to ensure marketability, and understandably so. The most unfortunate thing to me about that evolution is that with a 50k-ish price range, many aren't going to be able to experience one that otherwise might be interested. Then again, there's always the Mahindra Roxor, I guess.
 

Artemis

TJ Enthusiast
Jul 17, 2018
362
New Madison, Ohio
I still have yet to see a two door JL in person. I'd love to just take a ride, but I don't trust myself to not buy it.

Enjoy your new Jeep for a while before you start yanking things off of it!
Haha... Thanks! But I probably won't do too much to it honestly. A stock Jeep will take me any place I want to go. Grocery shopping, fields, Forrest roads and just general overland stuff. But right now, the aftermarket is really slow and what's out there is stupid expensive right now. I can't wait for them to catch up.
 

XISophos

TJ Enthusiast
Supporting Member
Mar 30, 2017
242
Denver, CO, United States
Haha... Thanks! But I probably won't do too much to it honestly. A stock Jeep will take me any place I want to go. Grocery shopping, fields, Forrest roads and just general overland stuff. But right now, the aftermarket is really slow and what's out there is stupid expensive right now. I can't wait for them to catch up.
Love color on your rig!

I had 07 JK pretty early on in their production run, and it was painful for a while waiting for stuff to hit the market. Even more painful to await the prices to come down!
 
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Starrs

TJ Expert
Aug 1, 2017
4,131
Indiana, United States
I still have yet to see a two door JL in person. I'd love to just take a ride, but I don't trust myself to not buy it.

Enjoy your new Jeep for a while before you start yanking things off of it!
When you see a 2 door JLR in person you’ll get it haha. It’s a nice unit for sure. So damn expensive tho. In a year or so the used prices will be a little more tolerable, but not much im afraid. The sting gray color is one of my favorite colors jeeps come out with in a long time.
 
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abart

Member
Oct 11, 2018
49
Iowa
I wouldn't rid of my TJ for a JL but I like them. Not the four door but the two door anyway.
 

ErikOffroad

TJ Enthusiast
Nov 13, 2018
313
Texas
To the guy that mentioned the mahindra Roxor, do not buy that piece of crap! I worked at a dealer that sold mahindra tractors for 4 years and they are the biggest pieces of crap. I think everyone of them that we sold had multiple warranty issues. Problems with the electrical because they did not use weather tight connectors. I had one that the connector was corroded on a brand new tractor and it melted the connector which then supplied power to the mid pto which then turned on the snow blower that was attached to it on its own and it would not shut off. I was under the tractor looking for leaks at the time because almost all of them leaked and I’m lucky I didn’t loose a arm when this happened. I have tons of more stories and pictures but I’ll save that for another time. I mean they didn’t even make there own side by side. They farmed that out to a different company and all they had to do was put there stickers on them and they couldn’t even do that right. All there stickers fell off after a month. Look at a old mahindra. The paint and plastic is so bad that they all turn pink! Who wants a pink tractor that smokes and breaks every 25 hours. Have u ever had to split a tractor to put a new clutch in it after 35 hours? I have!

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Artemis

TJ Enthusiast
Jul 17, 2018
362
New Madison, Ohio
Holy crap, that's 84,724 CAD!!!
The Canadian Jeeps are actually cheaper. That's why you can not buy a Canadian Jeep and bring it back to the US. Well, you can but you will have NO Warranty. A Canadian friend of mine said a fully loaded Rubicon was (iirc) equivalent to 45k American vs what we would pay for the same unit at 55k.
 

Equilibrium31

TJ Enthusiast
Supporting Member
Apr 7, 2018
851
Burnsville, MN, USA
You're a smart man @Spic. I could agree with you more.

They look good, but they're just covered in plastic and chrome like all the other new cars out there.

I get how it would appeal to someone who wants a comfortable daily driver, but still wants a "Jeep", but for those of us who consider the Wrangler to be more of a "recreational vehicle", it's lost it's appeal to me.
Even as a daily driver, I still prefer the TJ. Sure, it's not a smooth cush ride like the new cars, but it's comfortable, small and agile enough to fit in any parking spot I want, and my phone does everything I would care about any "infotainment" center doing.

The only thing I don't like my TJ for is long trips, but that's mostly because of how hard the wind noise makes it to chat with a passenger.
 

astjp2

TJ Addict
Aug 22, 2018
1,690
Utah and Alaska
Union labor had alot to do with this. Not to get off topic.
and how many people actually wanted an iron head sporster from that generation compared to an EVO? Just look at the sales numbers. I grew up in Tomakawk, one of the factory's was about a mile from the school, I can still remember the field trips through the factory. My Mom and Dad even worked there in the late 70's early 80's and friends parents retired from there. It was a better job than a lot there but overall it was just another place to work back then. Tim
 

astjp2

TJ Addict
Aug 22, 2018
1,690
Utah and Alaska
The one item that concerns me is from what I heard that they raised the foor up on the new JL to ride more like a car and not at truck height like a TJ, is that true?
 

XISophos

TJ Enthusiast
Supporting Member
Mar 30, 2017
242
Denver, CO, United States
To the guy that mentioned the mahindra Roxor, do not buy that piece of crap! I worked at a dealer that sold mahindra tractors for 4 years and they are the biggest pieces of crap. I think everyone of them that we sold had multiple warranty issues. Problems with the electrical because they did not use weather tight connectors. I had one that the connector was corroded on a brand new tractor and it melted the connector which then supplied power to the mid pto which then turned on the snow blower that was attached to it on its own and it would not shut off. I was under the tractor looking for leaks at the time because almost all of them leaked and I’m lucky I didn’t loose a arm when this happened. I have tons of more stories and pictures but I’ll save that for another time. I mean they didn’t even make there own side by side. They farmed that out to a different company and all they had to do was put there stickers on them and they couldn’t even do that right. All there stickers fell off after a month. Look at a old mahindra. The paint and plastic is so bad that they all turn pink! Who wants a pink tractor that smokes and breaks every 25 hours. Have u ever had to split a tractor to put a new clutch in it after 35 hours? I have!

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I was kinda joking. It was more a statement of that's the closest thing we have left unfortunately.
 

Equilibrium31

TJ Enthusiast
Supporting Member
Apr 7, 2018
851
Burnsville, MN, USA
Sort of a side rant here, but one of the things that gets me with almost all new cars is the whole giant touch screen that they put in the center. That sort of technology gets dated so quickly that it just seems like a waste of money. Considering that we all carry the same kind of tech in our pockets, it would just make more sense to build in a phone holder for the dash and have an app that allowed for integration for things like back-up camera and such. It's so much easier to control upgrading a phone and it's a hell of a lot cheaper than replacing an entire car.

Now, I know that's somewhat of a pipe dream, but looking back at cars from even just 5-10 years ago that were considered high-tech at the time and I can't help but cringe at how these new cars will look just a short while down the road.

 

ErikOffroad

TJ Enthusiast
Nov 13, 2018
313
Texas
My bad I just have a hatred of mahindra and went off on a tangent!
From my prospective my tj with a 4.25 lift and 33 inch tires sits as high off the ground as a stock jl. But it’s a lot easier to get into the jl because the door opening is a lot lower than on a tj. The seats are lower to the ground too. That’s how they get 32 inch tires from factory with out you having to jump to get in. Driving it though it definitely still feels like a Jeep.
 
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Chris

Administrator
Staff Member
Sep 28, 2015
37,222
Salem, Oregon
Even as a daily driver, I still prefer the TJ. Sure, it's not a smooth cush ride like the new cars, but it's comfortable, small and agile enough to fit in any parking spot I want, and my phone does everything I would care about any "infotainment" center doing.

The only thing I don't like my TJ for is long trips, but that's mostly because of how hard the wind noise makes it to chat with a passenger.
Very true! The Wranglers have continued to grow in size. Comparing mine next to a 2-door JK, I was shocked at how much bigger the 2-door JK is even!
 
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derekmac

TJ Addict
Feb 10, 2016
1,934
NS, Canada
The Canadian Jeeps are actually cheaper. That's why you can not buy a Canadian Jeep and bring it back to the US. Well, you can but you will have NO Warranty. A Canadian friend of mine said a fully loaded Rubicon was (iirc) equivalent to 45k American vs what we would pay for the same unit at 55k.
For the hell of it, I just did the Build and Price for a 2 door JLR on both Jeep.ca and Jeep.com. Both had all the same options added.

Canadian: $46,065 USD, $61,350 CAD
US: $52,525 USD, $69,957 CAD

Base Price
Canadian: $37,070 USD, $49,340 CAD
US: $47,272 USD, $62,918 CAD
 
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