Google it. Its a tesla drive unit. They aren't lacking in the power dept. especially compared to a 4.0l
Yeah, 500hp/425ft.lbs. He said ton axles are next so he doesn’t blow up his Dana 30/35 set up.
Google it. Its a tesla drive unit. They aren't lacking in the power dept. especially compared to a 4.0l
That is pretty badass. I'm unconvinced that it has the range he thinks it has on anything more difficult than fire roads. Will subscribe to his channel and watch all the vids.You guys see the electric tj that weird guy built using the tesla drive unit instead of a transfercase?
Jeep Tj 1997 with a Tesla engine - 4X4 SetUp MAGAZINE https://www.4x4setup.com/2021/07/24/jeep-tj-1997-with-a-tesla-engine/
Yeah, 500hp/425ft.lbs. He said ton axles are next so he doesn’t blow up his Dana 30/35 set up.
Google it. Its a tesla drive unit. They aren't lacking in the power dept. especially compared to a 4.0l
I didn't find any good info with a quick search, but looking at that Jeep you posted it looks to be the size of a trans and probably transfer case combined, so probably close to the dimensions of the one I posted. Definitely not a small object to be moving up and down on an axle.
I think in his video he implied all wheel drive. The drive unit is 300#, so that wouldn’t be good in the axle. He said the 4cyl, trans and T-case that came out were 660# (which seems low since a 4.0L is 550# by itself, but OK). The 90kwh battery and mounting hardware was over 1000#, less 200# or so if you factor in a full 19 gal tank/skid, he might be looking at around 450# weight gain. Not terrible but it will go up with one ton axles
I still like the idea of smaller (say 150hp) motors in each purpose built axle with electric lockers, of course. Then you can lose the driveshafts which in itself would be very nice. I’d also like to spread the modular battery packs around the engine bay, tunnel and tank area for space and weight distribution. Now that I say that, a frunk in a TJ would be cool
The chevy bolt drive unit is smaller if I'm not mistaken.and was available in kit form. Other oem ev's smaller than a tesla would be worth looking at too. I'd be worried about how to get power to the axle without the cables or insulation breaking down from the constant movement though.
For anyone thinking EV conversions of existing cars/rigs/Jeep/Trucks etc will be "the way forward", I submit an EV converted '74 BMW 2002 which sold for $42,500 at auction (true market reaction), after what was likely a $100,000 conversion per the conversion company's website which gives a conversion price range of $75,000-150,000+.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-bmw-2002-111/ It's a converted
For comparison, a lightly modified '75 BMW 2002 with 2.0 4-cylinder, which just sold for $48,250 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1975-bmw-2002-95/
Off of those two comparable cars, it looks like EV conversions are a complete waste of time and money (big money), or at least that's what the buying market seems to be saying. Thoughts?
Most engine/drivetrain swaps cost more than the change in value of the car.
I think any high quality modified vehicle whether its a hot rod, Jeep, or EV conversion sells for pennies on the dollar "invested". Nothing new here.Thoughts?
I'll give you that, but generally an engine swap isn't a complete waste of time and money, especially total cost, which is likely $100,000 for EV conversion. The examples above pretty much isolated the EV conversion to having ZERO contributory value, possibly even a negative value (excluding actual conversion cost). In layman terms, the buying public said an EV swapped classic is nothing special, even with all the current headline hype, and the original builder/money man just pissed it all away.
If it was a 4-cylinder TJ swapped to a 4.0, or HEMI or LS, do you think the market value would increase at least some?
I think any high quality modified vehicle whether its a hot rod, Jeep, or EV conversion sells for pennies on the dollar "invested". Nothing new here.
Whether a hemi or an ev,either can be done for 100k or 10-20k. Regardless,nobody swaps their rig with profit as the motive. Its a losing proposition assuming its done right.
I guess my question for you is what do any of your posts have to do with ev suspension design?
Yes gas is cheaper,you win.do you have anything to contribute?
I agree with the general statement, but that is brushing off the fact that this EV conversion is NO (potentially negative) pennies on the dollar. It's just demonstrating the niche market, or lack there of, for EV stuff that I've pointed out.
exactly my point. You want to argue the merits of ev in general.not provide any ideas of how to lift one,convert to ev etc.No market for it. I assumed you could put that together.... Was I wrong?
Talk about niche market. Think I see far fewer LS swapped TJs around here than EVs
I did run into a couple Rivians in the snow back in December. Looked nice but admittedly they didn't do well in deep stuff (12"+)
You want to argue the merits of ev in general.not provide any ideas of how to lift one,convert to ev etc.
why do we care about bmw's on bring a trailer?
It isn't necessary to spend 100k on a conversion,even when buying one of the ev kits from an oem like gm.
Were they on road or trying to go off into the powder? The Rivian looks like an F150 to me, so I figured they would be about as capable.