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Took the wife to an RV show, got a new truck!

RobertJ

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I retire in 9 months, and three years ago we bought a lake house in rural PA in anticipation. Our house in Virginia has quite a bit of equity, and we've long discussed what we'll do in the winters, because we're not staying up in PA much past Christmas. We thought about a condo in Florida, or something similar. We're both super adventurous, so I'm not sure staying in one place all winter will work for us.

When we met, I was living full-time in a motorhome, and I've always been an RV type of guy. My kids loved it growing up. My wife and I have only been married 10 years, but her family camped a little while she was growing up too. We were thinking motorhome again, because the TJ would make a great "toad" behind one. As we toured several RVs at the show, we were not impressed with the quality of most of the Class A campers we looked at in our budget. For sure, diesels were out of our budget, and I'm not a huge fan of the Ford gas chassis for a Class A.

I've always loved 5th wheels, but I never had the right truck. I wasn't even thinking the wife would want to look at any of them, but we decided to since we were so disappointed in the motorhomes. My wife was blown away by just about every 5th wheel we looked at. We talked about it a few weeks, and decided a 5th wheel was what'd be get to tour the gold old US of A during the next 10 years or so. With that thought in mind, she understood that a truck upgrade was in order.

I'm a RAM fan, and I know the HD trucks for 2025 come with big changes such as a departure from the tried and true Aisin transmission and some pretty big changes to the Cummins. As much as I love RAMs, I don't really trust Stellantis to get everything right in the first try at this new drivetrain combination for the RAMs. Most dealers around me have started clearing out 2024 HD RAMs even before the 2025s hit the lots. I got my 3500 for $13k under MSRP which I was pretty happy with. They also gave me more than CarMax offered for my 2020 1500.

Out with the old:

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In with the new:

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It's a different driving experience for sure. We took it on a couple of road trips this past weekend, and boy was the ride stiff. I started researching tire PSI and found that the dealers seem to think 80psi is a must for all four tires with the truck loaded or not. I set the fronts to 65 (according to the door jam) and the rears to 50 (according to research, the door jams say 80), and it made a pretty noticeable difference. The Cummins has so much torque on demand, but the Hemi definitely has more acceleration from a start. Our 5th wheel will be around 16,000 pounds loaded, and the Cummins will definitely shine in that area obviously.

It came with a 5th wheel hitch prep package, so now I need to pick a hitch. Any suggestions? I've already got side steps on order. You should see my little 5'3" wife getting up in the cab. It's not easy for me either with my recently replaced knees.

Looking forward to many years of adventure with the new truck.
 
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We thought about a condo in Florida, or something similar. We're both super adventurous, so I'm not sure staying in one place all winter will work for us.

If you haven't done so already, take a very good, loooooong look at the condo situation in Florida before pulling that trigger, particularly it's location, age, height (floor count), cash reserves/maintenance, deferred maintenance situation, homeowners insurance... not saying don't do it, just proceed with caution and do your homework
 
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If you haven't done so already, take a very good, loooooong look at the condo situation in Florida before pulling that trigger, particularly it's location, age, height (floor count), cash reserves/maintenance, deferred maintenance situation, homeowners insurance... not saying don't do it, just proceed with caution and do your homework

I have, and it's another reason we decided the RV life would be the way to go versus a condo. It seems like it's a mess waiting to happen for sure.
 
Nice truck, where in PA did you buy? I have a place in Pike county and recently drove from there to my brothers in McLean VA and it was a nice drive. so much better than my drive from Long Island to my house in PA.
 
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Nice truck, where in PA did you buy? I have a place in Pike county and recently drove from there to my brothers in McLean VA and it was a nice drive. so much better than my drive from Long Island to my house in PA.

Thanks!

We mostly live in Virginia until December and my retirement. We got it at Fair Oaks in Chantilly.
 
My wife and I have talked about this same thing, if you have a condo or cabin - it's hard to argue vacationing anywhere else. But a camper/RV/etc gives lots of options. Congrats!
 
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My wife and I have talked about this same thing, if you have a condo or cabin - it's hard to argue vacationing anywhere else. But a camper/RV/etc gives lots of options. Congrats!

Thanks! The only real drawback I see is that as I get older, it'll be more difficult to do the RV thing. I really hope to have 10 good years with it.
 
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My wife and I did something similar. Starting in 2011, we were looking for a vacation/retirement property. We got tired of looking and bought our first travel trailer. About 5 years ago we decided that we didn't like towing so much and bought a motor home. Last month we took delivery of our latest motorhome. We're excited to start this years camping season.

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My wife and I did something similar. Starting in 2011, we were looking for a vacation/retirement property. We got tired of looking and bought our first travel trailer. About 5 years ago we decided that we didn't like towing so much and bought a motor home. Last month we took delivery of our latest motorhome. We're excited to start this years camping season.

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Gorgeous Class C! What do you tow behind it if anything?
 
Dealers know nothing about tire pressure, go according to weight like you did. I like to use the load and inflation tables but when towing you will want 80 PSI in the rear for sure. Get the CAT app on your phone so you can weigh each axle on the truck and trailer separately. Pay close attention to your payload numbers, what does your yellow door sticker say and what is the pin weight on some of those fivers you're looking at? Keep in mind the weight of the hitch counts toward payload. Also keep in mind that dry hitch weights are generally pretty optimistic and of course they don't include the added weight of the rig when loaded for a trip.
 
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Dealers know nothing about tire pressure, go according to weight like you did. I like to use the load and inflation tables but when towing you will want 80 PSI in the rear for sure. Get the CAT app on your phone so you can weigh each axle on the truck and trailer separately. Pay close attention to your payload numbers, what does your yellow door sticker say and what is the pin weight on some of those fivers you're looking at? Keep in mind the weight of the hitch counts toward payload.

I've heard they inflate the tires to max to keep from getting dead spots on the tires. Have no idea if that's still a thing with modern tires. Definitely 80psi when loaded with a trailer!

I've done all the weight research ad nauseum, trust me. The payload capacity of my truck is 4,340 pounds. PIN weight on the above fiver is 2,235 pounds empty. That gives me over 2,100 pounds of wiggle room minus me, the wife, and the dog at around 400 pounds . That gives me just over 1,700 pounds of cargo left over. We'll travel light in the truck (I always do, I hate clutter in my vehicle), and be mindful of how we load the fiver and figure out what can go over the rear axle versus the pin box.

I know one of the first things I should do is get it weighed to make sure, and the app sounds like a great idea. Thanks for the info!
 
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Wow - I haven't seen a fiver with a sliding glass door in almost 50 years! The balcony is a new twist. I wouldn't want to drive or back this one with a double cab truck though.

It was insane to see that sliding glass door leading out to that balcony. My wife was totally hooked right away. When that deck is closed, it looks like this:

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We'll see how it goes. I've spent countless miles towing boats and backing them down a ramp, so I'm not completely new to backing up a trailer. But a 5th wheel will be new territory for me. I see my self practicing backing up in an empty parking lot just like a learned to drive in the snow. LOL
 
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I've heard they inflate the tires to max to keep from getting dead spots on the tires. Have no idea if that's still a thing with modern tires. Definitely 80psi when loaded with a trailer!

I've done all the weight research ad nauseum, trust me. The payload capacity of my truck is 4,340 pounds. PIN weight on the above fiver is 2,235 pounds empty. That gives me over 2,100 pounds of wiggle room minus me, the wife, and the dog at around 400 pounds . That gives me just over 1,700 pounds of cargo left over. We'll travel light in the truck (I always do, I hate clutter in my vehicle), and be mindful of how we load the fiver and figure out what can go over the rear axle versus the pin box.

I know one of the first things I should do is get it weighed to make sure, and the app sounds like a great idea. Thanks for the info!

Sound like you're on top of it! I hate to see folks going forward blindly and finding out later they bought the wrong truck or trailer based on what the sales person said. The only thing I can say about the RV sales people is you can always tell if they're lying by seeing if their lips are moving!

BTW 4,340 payload on a SRW is amazing! Trucks have come a long ways since my 23 year old Superduty.
 
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It was insane to see that sliding glass door leading out to that balcony. My wife was totally hooked right away.

We'll see how it goes. I've spent countless miles towing boats and backing them down a ramp, so I'm not completely new to backing up a trailer. But a 5th wheel will be new territory for me. I see my self practicing backing up in an empty parking lot just like a learned to drive in the snow. LOL

5ers are easier to back up than conventional trailers, but do practice as that long ass truck will be "interesting"!
 
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What's the rationale behind wanting the patio? Since it's an RV you're parking in camping spots and etc with outdoor areas already, is it worth sacrificing inside space for it?

Just curious really. Looks really nice.
 
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Sound like you're on top of it! I hate to see folks going forward blindly and finding out later they bought the wrong truck or trailer based on what the sales person said. The only thing I can say about the RV sales people is you can always tell if they're lying by seeing if their lips are moving!

BTW 4,340 payload on a SRW is amazing! Trucks have come a long ways since my 23 year old Superduty.

They really have come a long way. I compared payloads from 10 years ago and they've jumped up at least 500 pounds for all trim levels across the board. Crazy.
 
What's the rationale behind wanting the patio? Since it's an RV you're parking in camping spots and etc with outdoor areas already, is it worth sacrificing inside space for it?

Just curious really. Looks really nice.

Doggy that likes to hang out with us while we drink coffee/tea in the morning is one of the big things. LOL...he also hates to be tethered and is retarded hooked up. He loves to greet people and will forget all about it and nearly kill himself. Plus, my wife is a huge balcony person whether it be on a cruise ship, her old apartment, hotel, etc. You get the point.

It doesn't really decrease interior space, because it works just like a slide out. Check this video out if you're curious.

Sabre 37RVMiles
 
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