Oh, he knew about the condition of the frame I'm sure. How could he not if he was draining the oil. He lied about how long he owned the car. People like that have no ethics or conscience.
Total frame replacement?
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Oh, he knew about the condition of the frame I'm sure. How could he not if he was draining the oil. He lied about how long he owned the car. People like that have no ethics or conscience.
If I were to sell a car like that, not only I would in no uncertain terms disclose the condition of the vehicle but would also document it in writing and ask the buyer to sign in acknowledgement in order to protect me against possible legal actions.
Time to summon Oregon's @macleanflood for his frame swapping advice. 
Does OR have vehicle inspection regs? If one failed could you hold the seller responsible for repairs? Im thinking like Ca's smog laws state the seller IS responsible for selling a smog legal vehicle and can be held accountable for repairs. Just a thought to make the seller take it back. Was this a dealer?
Private sale. Apparently there are laws here that protect a buyer in cases of safety. Exploring that
We're all keeping our fingers crossed and rooting for you. Have you tried contacting the seller, informing his of what he likely knew about it, and straight up asking for your money back? In the next move if that does nothing, have you contacted a lawyer? Typically they, or their paralegal sec can prepare a letter outlining the issues and get to the seller which might get you a refund.
If you like the Jeep frame swap is an option, price a frame and labor and get a refund from the seller
Thank you! I’m already collecting information and will make calls tomorrow
Good thought. What I have priced so far would be cost prohibitive for labor alone. As of yesterday I’ve come to terms with it being a loss and to pursue things with seller.
Unusual to see that rust in your area. That said, this is exactly why they make safe t caps.
Post some more pictures of the frame. From what I saw, looks like it is very salvageable.
@macleanflood Your input?
Post some more pictures of the frame. From what I saw, looks like it is very salvageable.
@macleanflood Your input?
I agree with your approach. The paralegal preparing a letter shouldn't cost too much. If the attorney gets involved for further actions it may become cost prohibitive.
Hopefully that letter is enough to do its job. There's always small claims but I'm not sure about OR's limit on claims which I believe is $10K, and the fact it may take many many months to settle. It would be so easy for the seller to say here's your money back and you both walk away. Lesson learned.
The way to start with the seller is to send him a “Demand Letter” demanding a refund over the safety issues including the vehicle inspections. Make it clear that selling a vehicle with obvious safety issues will weigh heavy in your favor vs “Sold as is” in front of a small claims Judge. I guess you could get an attorney but this will further deepen your losses. Good luck on this!
Swapping a frame is easy to do in 8 days.
I even have a hot spare sitting in my yard just in case.
Paying someone to do it is nuts.
People drive Jeeps from back east and sell them... happens...rare to see here but you have to check.
-Mac
I even have a hot spare sitting in my yard just in case.
Paying someone to do it is nuts.
People drive Jeeps from back east and sell them... happens...rare to see here but you have to check.
-Mac
I do not understand how this is the seller's fault. You had the opportunity to perform due diligence on the rig prior to purchase but failed to identify any material issues. You were satisfied with the condition of the vehicle and opted to purchase.