VW to revive IH Scout model as electric pickup / SUV for 2026

[SteelJeep]

https://www.carscoops.com/2022/05/vw-group-plans-scout-brand-revival-with-electric-pickup-and-suv/
"The new brand sounds like a good opportunity for VW to enter the EV pickup race in the US, a market that is expected to grow in the coming years since plenty of rivals including Ford, Tesla, Rivian, and Chevrolet have already unveiled or announced their proposals. Besides the pickup, VW could also use the Scout brand to offer a no-frills off-roader SUV with a fully electric powertrain as a competitor to the Jeep Wrangler, Ford Bronco, and Land Rover Defender."

 

[freedom_in_4low]

The first thing I thought was how the hell did VW end up with thr Scout brand.

 

[SteelJeep]

The first thing I thought was how the hell did VW end up with thr Scout brand.

According to the article: VW Group owns the rights to the Scout brand since 2020 when VW-owned Traton bought Navistar International Corp (NIC). NIC was created in 1985 after the original owner of the Scout name, International Harvester, went defunct.

What it doesn't explain is when did NIC buy or acquire International Harvester, or did NIC just buy the Scout name from International Harvester. Who knows. At the end of the day it's all about marketing & ripping off the heritage of an American brand in the pursuit of profits via nostalgia.

 

[Zorba]

"No frills"? In America? Perish the thought - it won't happen.

 

[freedom_in_4low]

According to the article: VW Group owns the rights to the Scout brand since 2020 when VW-owned Traton bought Navistar International Corp (NIC). NIC was created in 1985 after the original owner of the Scout name, International Harvester, went defunct.

What it doesn't explain is when did NIC buy or acquire International Harvester, or did NIC just buy the Scout name from International Harvester. Who knows. At the end of the day it's all about marketing & ripping off the heritage of an American brand in the pursuit of profits via nostalgia.

I think International renamed itself Navistar at some point. I didn't know VW had acquired Navistar until this.

 

[Apparition]

At least there's no talk of a Navistar diesel in it.

 

[freedom_in_4low]

At least there's no talk of a Navistar diesel in it.

Would that be bad? I know nothing about diesels.

My wife and I talk occasionally about picking up a retired school bus and building it into an RV. They're all pretty much International or Bluebird around here and I have no idea which would be better but I think the International front end looks beefier.

 

[Apparition]

Would that be bad? I know nothing about diesels.

My wife and I talk occasionally about picking up a retired school bus and building it into an RV. They're all pretty much International or Bluebird around here and I have no idea which would be better but I think the International front end looks beefier.

Navistar designed the 6.0 Ford among other Ford diesels. They are the reason Ford now designs their own diesels.

 

[Zorba]

Navistar designed the 6.0 Ford among other Ford diesels. They are the reason Ford now designs their own diesels.

The 6.9 was excellent, the 7.3 almost as good. But I know nothing about the 6.0 - what was its problems?

 

[Apparition]

The 6.9 was excellent, the 7.3 almost as good. But I know nothing about the 6.0 - what was its problems?

9 Common 6.0L Powerstroke Problems & Fixes​

If you’re a diesel nut like me, you probably know that most people will steer clear of buying a 2003 to 2007 model year Ford Superduty Diesel truck. The 6.0L Powerstroke is known for having major problems. Most of these problems originate from the factory design. The new EGR emissions system that was introduced to meet emissions standards at the time, is a big contributor to the 6.0s frequent problems. Head studs provide inadequate clamping force so blown head gaskets are common. Other 6.0L Powerstroke problems include HPOP failure, injector stiction, FICM failure, and clogging oil coolers. Fortunately, once these problems are addressed, the trucks are much more reliable. Some of these problems can be avoided. If you follow a strict 6.0L Powerstroke Service Schedule however, you can drastically reduce the amount of problems you experience....

https://dieselresource.com/diesel-resources/6-0l-powerstroke-problems-and-fixes/

 

[Zorba]

9 Common 6.0L Powerstroke Problems & Fixes​

If you’re a diesel nut like me, you probably know that most people will steer clear of buying a 2003 to 2007 model year Ford Superduty Diesel truck. The 6.0L Powerstroke is known for having major problems. Most of these problems originate from the factory design. The new EGR emissions system that was introduced to meet emissions standards at the time, is a big contributor to the 6.0s frequent problems. Head studs provide inadequate clamping force so blown head gaskets are common. Other 6.0L Powerstroke problems include HPOP failure, injector stiction, FICM failure, and clogging oil coolers. Fortunately, once these problems are addressed, the trucks are much more reliable. Some of these problems can be avoided. If you follow a strict 6.0L Powerstroke Service Schedule however, you can drastically reduce the amount of problems you experience....

https://dieselresource.com/diesel-resources/6-0l-powerstroke-problems-and-fixes/

Oh, that's just "wonderful"...

 

[Neal]

In my opinion Ford already resurrected the Scout body style and called it the new Bronco. VW is late to the party.

 

[reddvltj]

Navistar designed the 6.0 Ford among other Ford diesels. They are the reason Ford now designs their own diesels.

IMO the 6.4 was a bigger flop than the 6.0...

Ford initially started partnering with International in '82, but they didn't put the "Power Stroke" in the pickups until '94.
Ford finally went away from the ITEC engines for the 2011 model year 6.7 Power Stroke. So the 6.9, 7.3, 6.0, and 6.4 engines were born from that partnership.

https://prosourcediesel.com/blog/fo...,International Truck and Engine Corporation).

 

[John Cooper]

The 6.4 is what started the break in the Navistar, ford relationship. Ford and Navistar started out jointly designing the 6.7 and then Ford took it over. That's not to say the early 6.7's did have problems, like catastrophic engine failures, but Ford was quick to address the problems.

Navistar shot itself in the foot with the MaxForce engines, they were trying to beat everyone to the deadline on the new emissions engines. Their on engineering department told them it was not going to work.