What synthetic rope should I get?

tomtaylz

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Just starting to read up on synthetic rope for my winch.

I want to get a thimble and all that also. I have a warm I believe older style m8000 which was installed when I got it (not 100% sure). Don’t really know much about it.

What characteristics are there to look out when comparing synthetic brands. Anything on sale for Black Friday?

What procedures are there when switching from cable to synthetic? Should I replace the Fairlead? (I have a warn hawse steel fairlead which I put on recently and have not operated the which while it’s been on.

What could I potentially sell the cable for?

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The M8000 is the same no matter the line. I removed my steel and replaced it with rope and have had zero problems.

I did not know. That about Warn. A few other manufacturers have different drums for the synthetic version. Thats why i posted that link. It doesn't say dont do it. Just what to look for before doing it. Its all ways better to have more information than not enough.
 

Jerry Bransford

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3/8" is what you want but 80' is the max length for your M8000.

Heat is not an issue for synthetic rope for how we typically use our winches. The internal brake is what generates the heat but the brake is not used when winching in the normal 'in' direction. The brake is only used when under load in the reverse/out direction. Like if you were lowering yourself or someone else backwards down over a cliff. That's not a situation I've ever found myself in or ever seen on the trail.
 
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3/8" is what you want but 80' is the max length for your M8000.

Heat is not an issue for how we typically use our winches. The internal brake is what generates the heat but the brake is not used when winching in the normal 'in' direction. The brake is only used when under load in the reverse/out direction. Like if you were lowering yourself or someone else backwards down over a cliff.
Good to know
 
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3/8" is what you want but 80' is the max length for your M8000.

Heat is not an issue for how we typically use our winches. The internal brake is what generates the heat but the brake is not used when winching in the normal 'in' direction. The brake is only used when under load in the reverse/out direction. Like if you were lowering yourself or someone else backwards down over a cliff.
Gotcha I’ll look tomorrow double check that’s what the winch is.
 

mrblaine

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What attributes besides just thickness should I look out for when comparing rope brands?
Avoid the thin stainless thimbles. Avoid the heavy tube thimbles if you plan on an aluminum fairlead. Rope should be 3/8" and watch the bargain brands. They use a lower strength fiber so the breaking strength is lower for the same diameters. You're looking for something in the 19-20ish thousand pound range in 3/8". Avoid the tubular abrasion guards, they aren't. If you can't find a rope without one, remove it before installation. Avoid Warn ropes. They have a very bulky guard and the length will need to be cut down. We've been cutting 20 feet off.
 
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Avoid the thin stainless thimbles. Avoid the heavy tube thimbles if you plan on an aluminum fairlead. Rope should be 3/8" and watch the bargain brands. They use a lower strength fiber so the breaking strength is lower for the same diameters. You're looking for something in the 19-20ish thousand pound range in 3/8". Avoid the tubular abrasion guards, they aren't. If you can't find a rope without one, remove it before installation. Avoid Warn ropes. They have a very bulky guard and the length will need to be cut down. We've been cutting 20 feet off.
Thanks Blaine, any brands besides the above TRE that you'd recommend looking into?
 
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I am friends with the owner. I invented and improved the Safety Thimble over the years, I run nothing but TRE products. What do you think I'm going to say? ;)
Sounds good I’ll probably go with them!

This the identifier on my winch I’m pretty sure it’s of the m8000 series after some googling.

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I sent a message to warn also.
 
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I have one with a no name Dyneema, it is ok, the other has MasterPull XD Superline, it is really nice stuff, very durable and 26,500 breaking strength....
 

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