Places like Moab are absolutely bizarre. I was doing things and seeing things that can't happen in Colorado.
I'm not sure what you mean. They do handle different. Especially with higher weight transfer (climbing). Wheeling midwest dirt is much different than high traction rock faces. High antisquat doesn't present itself until you have higher traction.Nope, just trying to get you to think about your statement that short arms are not good in in differing (high vs. low) traction situations.
I guess my TJ just doesn't work well enough to do what I do.... In my opinion, someone who likes their short arm lifted at 4 inches who rockcrawls doesn't have the same appreciation for a good climbing rig.
If you were able to just relocate both upper and lower mounts to make stock arms flatter, it will handle much better. This is what Dave does to JKs, since their arms are already a bit of a "midarm". To be honest, I wouldn't run any stock-lenmgth short arm. The length does matter to me, because you can get into the range of better antisquat with longer arms, and correcting geometry. I like low antisquat. It's been a while, but I seem to remember measuring a Jeep with a lifted short arm, and it being in the 125% range.
But again...I'm guessing most lifted Jeeps aren't going to see high traction situations, and lifted short arms work just fine for their owners. Don't get into upgrade-itis just because, you'll want to find the limits of your Jeep by yourself.
I guess my TJ just doesn't work well enough to do what I do.
I guess my TJ just doesn't work well enough to do what I do.
Jerry, I feel the same way about my RC lift kit.
Well dang, either he's smarter than me, or my memory is terrible.Doing some google homework I found this. "I remember measuring a lifted short arm rig years ago. 4 inches I believe. It was at 200% antisquat in the rear. It's no wonder I got rid of them almost 10 years ago..." I have seen a few other numbers a little lower too. PS that quote is from pcoplin 5 years ago.
Well dang, either he's smarter than me, or my memory is terrible.
Here's a climb I'm particularly proud of, from April this year. Never been up Rocker Knocker like this, took me a couple tries. And my suspension isn't a short arm.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sjbw1p6iwtf2gz0/20190422_143857.mp4?raw=1
Nice! A little momentum works wonders. What size tires and wheelbase?