Your opinion: Condition of 2004 Jeep Wrangler

I think, given the feedback from you folks, that I'm going to ask the seller to find a way to get me some good photos of the undercarriage as a condition of even making the trip down there to take a look. There's a good chance this one will have rust issues and at $17k probably not worth the time and expense. If he can't take pics he can find someone who can--assuming he has nothing to hide. Thanks to everyone for the input!

That's smart. He could get a neighbor to take pics. I see so many Jeep ads here that say, " frame is perfect with zero rust." Yet they don't post any pics of the undercarriage. :unsure: :rolleyes:
 
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Prime example from FB Marketplace. Clean up top.
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Pulled up from the Titanic underneath.

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Prime example from FB Marketplace. Clean up top.
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Pulled up from the Titanic underneath.

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"Some mild surface rust. Easily fixed..."

Edit: This reminds me of a TJ that I looked at when I was looking.

It was a nice 20/20 Jeep. IOW, it looked good from 20 feet away or 20 minutes before dark.

It drove OK, but when I looked at the frame it was almost broken in two just a bit forward of the rear hangar.

I think a good speedbump or pothole would've snapped it.

When I showed the crack to the seller, he was either genuinely surprised or an Oscar-worthy actor.
 
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I found a nice 02' auto and told the guy I would pay his full asking price for it. I told him I had the cash with me and was on my way (3.5 hour drive one way). He replied, "sounds great, see you when you get here." I texted him when I was 5 minutes away to let him know we were almost there. He texted me back, " Sorry, I sold it 15 minutes ago to someone else." I wanted to stop by anyway, but my wife said it wouldn't be a good idea. I listened for once. 🤬

Had this happen to my son and I. Drove from Poughkeepsie NY to Baltimore MD. 10 minutes out called to give eta he sold it an hour before I got there.
We did find some great bbq tho 😉
 
Seller said he couldn't physically get down on the ground to take photos of the undercarriage. Said I'd have to come look at it myself.

So when was the last time he looked at it himself? Does he even know the condition under there? Sounds like he is hiding something or is clueless about it. Neither are good.

Take a cheap Amazon endoscope to look inside the frame if it looks OK on the outside.

Andy
 
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It took 4 shots to calm me down. I let my wife drive home. 🥳 😇

It was my son that couldn’t cool down. He has spent over an hour on the phone w the guy the night before at 11pm. Told the guy we were leaving 4:30am coming straight to him and had cash. If it wasn’t for that roadside bbq I think Ben would have gone berserk 😋
 
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It was my son that couldn’t cool down. He has spent over an hour on the phone w the guy the night before at 11pm. Told the guy we were leaving 4:30am coming straight to him and had cash. If it wasn’t for that roadside bbq I think Ben would have gone berserk 😋
That almost happened when I bought my current Rubicon. It was listed at 11pm Saturday night, I contacted the guy first and told him I would drive straight there (2 hours to D.C.) when I got off work at 3:30am. I was almost there at 7am when he called me. He said someone wanted him to hold it until the banks opened Monday morning and was going to give him a check for $1,000 to hold it. He wanted to give me the first chance to get it because I was the first to contact him. I told him I had $9,800 in cash and would buy it IF everything checked out when I got there. Drove it home 2 hours later.
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That almost happened when I bought my current Rubicon. It was listed at 11pm Saturday night, I contacted the guy first and told him I would drive straight there (2 hours to D.C.) when I got off work at 3:30am. I was almost there at 7am when he called me. He said someone wanted him to hold it until the banks opened Monday morning and was going to give him a check for $1,000 to hold it. He wanted to give me the first chance to get it because I was the first to contact him. I told him I had $9,800 in cash and would buy it IF everything checked out when I got there. Drove it home 2 hours later.
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It all works out in the end. My son totaled the ‘00 Sahara we picked up a few days later and now has a beautiful South Carolina ’06 TJR that is almost ready to go up on Rockjock 4” coils and get a Savvy UAM at the same time. Gonna be nice. 🇺🇸
 
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That almost happened when I bought my current Rubicon. It was listed at 11pm Saturday night, I contacted the guy first and told him I would drive straight there (2 hours to D.C.) when I got off work at 3:30am. I was almost there at 7am when he called me. He said someone wanted him to hold it until the banks opened Monday morning and was going to give him a check for $1,000 to hold it. He wanted to give me the first chance to get it because I was the first to contact him. I told him I had $9,800 in cash and would buy it IF everything checked out when I got there. Drove it home 2 hours later.
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This is my dream Jeep! Exactly what I envision when I think TJ Rubicon. Just wow….
 
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This is my dream Jeep! Exactly what I envision when I think TJ Rubicon. Just wow….

Don’t stop searching. If your debating a $17k Jeep 4 hours from you and it’s not your dream forget it. Wait for your rig to come. Look farther and travel wherever you need so when that rig is in your driveway and your dumping cash into it you can still smile. 🇺🇸
 
Don’t stop searching. If your debating a $17k Jeep 4 hours from you and it’s not your dream forget it. Wait for your rig to come. Look farther and travel wherever you need so when that rig is in your driveway and your dumping cash into it you can still smile. 🇺🇸

Yes, and the more I think about this Jeep the more $$ I see.
 
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Don’t stop searching. If your debating a $17k Jeep 4 hours from you and it’s not your dream forget it. Wait for your rig to come. Look farther and travel wherever you need so when that rig is in your driveway and your dumping cash into it you can still smile. 🇺🇸

Great point. And the more I think about this one the more $$ I see