Zone lift (18 months later)

CasterTroy

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I want to give some honest feedback to those considering this lift.


The Zone 4.25” lift is suggested heavily on the Jeep forums that have knowledgeable and very helpful members. This lift has all the essentials you need in or to run a 33” tire. And admiringly, at first, that’s all I really wanted.
I use to wheel 15 years ago in a 97 bronco on 35’s and detroits. I loved wheeling, as a winter activity when I was away from motorcycles, but sold my bronco to race…and decided after getting too old to get hurt on the road course after ditching a bike at 100mph+ to come BACK to wheeling. But wasn’t sure if I really wanted WHEEL…or just play and pose.
Like many suggested, I ordered the Zone kit an installed it. And it worked GREAT. I also got a set of Brown dog motor mounts to avoid dropping the transfer case. As well as sway bar disconnects.
But about 6 months after the lift I decided to join a local 4x4 club that’s 45 yrs old and actually does WHEELING trips once a month. Travel trips mostly, but its ACTUAL wheeling. And here-in lies the “problem” with the zone lift.
After 18 months (6 months of street posing followed by 12 months of actual east coast wheeling/crawling) The springs have “settled” about ¾” total and the front passenger settling 1”

In addition, the rear springs/shock now allow the rear to “toad-out” (bottom out/smack it’s ass) over small-ish humps.

The Zone shocks are OK on the street, but offroad there’s way too much movement allowed. A Currie Antirock helped SOME, and Ironman4x4offroad control arms further stabilized the flex, but as you can see in this video:



There’s WAY too much wobble involved for what I’m doing. Granted, I’m not on some mountain of rocks in Utah on Team ARB with Blaine running a support team, but we’re having fun out here.

As a result, Savvy 3” dual rate springs will arrive this week, along with Fox 2.0 shocks.

Now, that’s not to say those giving the advice to go Zone are wrong! They aren’t. Just understand, if you really wheel that Jeep, and flex it out more than a couple of times a year, that lift really isn’t going to last you very long. If you’re JUST looking for the clearance for 33’s and will likely be on pavement 99% of the time, this lift may serve you well for many years. But WHEELING your rig 2-3 weekends a month will merit about a 10 month lifespan on both springs and shocks. Once these springs and shocks arrive I will have replaced every item included in the Zone 4.25 kit (less the body lift, still using that) with better components.
No regerts! <sic> but throwing this out for those of you who want to skip this learning step and get right to a proper lift the first time, go with something a little more trail proven and you won’t be “testing” to see what works best for you.


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Pictured below are the differences between a 18 month old ZONE life 3" spring, and a Currie 3" spring. Notice how the Zone springs have settled and arched


spring1.jpg


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This is tremendously helpful. I've never used the Zone kit, but along with OME, it's my other recommendation for people who don't want to break the bank with something like Currie.

So basically what I take from this is it's similar to a Rough Country lift, in that it will do just fine for the lifted look, but if you wheel the piss out of it, it won't last long.

Of course I have to assume it rides better than Rough Country on-road (anything has to).

This pretty much sums up why a kit like Currie is so expensive. People gawk at the price, but if you see the Currie components in person (I have a Currie kit on my TJ) it's instantly obvious why it costs so much. Everything is exceptionally well built, and the Johnny Joints are second to none.

Hell, I wheel mine every chance I get, and I've NEVER had an issue with anything on the lift at all. These Johnny Joints really are the shit!

The moral of the story here is, you get what you pay for.
 
So basically what I take from this is it's similar to a Rough Country lift, in that it will do just fine for the lifted look, but if you wheel the piss out of it, it won't last long.

exactly.

Rides nice as hell on the road though....I mean if you're after poser look (which, I have no problem with....not one to look down my nose at anyones ride, they like what THEY like) it's 100% the tits
 
exactly.

Rides nice as hell on the road though....I mean if you're after poser look (which, I have no problem with....not one to look down my nose at anyones ride, they like what THEY like) it's 100% the tits

Great. This at least gives me some idea of how to recommend a lift. RC lifts ride like complete garbage, so it's nice to know that a "looks only" kit exists that actually has a decent ride to it.

I'm not surprised though in the end. Guys like Currie aren't going to charge you $2500 for a lift if you're not getting something substantially better than say, Rough Country.

Nice review. You almost never see anything after the initial install.

So true! I wish more people did reviews after the install.
 
I want to give some honest feedback to those considering this lift.


The Zone 4.25” lift is suggested heavily on the Jeep forums that have knowledgeable and very helpful members. This lift has all the essentials you need in or to run a 33” tire. And admiringly, at first, that’s all I really wanted.
I use to wheel 15 years ago in a 97 bronco on 35’s and detroits. I loved wheeling, as a winter activity when I was away from motorcycles, but sold my bronco to race…and decided after getting too old to get hurt on the road course after ditching a bike at 100mph+ to come BACK to wheeling. But wasn’t sure if I really wanted WHEEL…or just play and pose.
Like many suggested, I ordered the Zone kit an installed it. And it worked GREAT. I also got a set of Brown dog motor mounts to avoid dropping the transfer case. As well as sway bar disconnects.
But about 6 months after the lift I decided to join a local 4x4 club that’s 45 yrs old and actually does WHEELING trips once a month. Travel trips mostly, but its ACTUAL wheeling. And here-in lies the “problem” with the zone lift.
After 18 months (6 months of street posing followed by 12 months of actual east coast wheeling/crawling) The springs have “settled” about ¾” total and the front passenger settling 1”

In addition, the rear springs/shock now allow the rear to “toad-out” (bottom out/smack it’s ass) over small-ish humps.

The Zone shocks are OK on the street, but offroad there’s way too much movement allowed. A Currie Antirock helped SOME, and Ironman4x4offroad control arms further stabilized the flex, but as you can see in this video:



There’s WAY too much wobble involved for what I’m doing. Granted, I’m not on some mountain of rocks in Utah on Team ARB with Blaine running a support team, but we’re having fun out here.

As a result, Savvy 3” dual rate springs will arrive this week, along with Fox 2.0 shocks.

Now, that’s not to say those giving the advice to go Zone are wrong! They aren’t. Just understand, if you really wheel that Jeep, and flex it out more than a couple of times a year, that lift really isn’t going to last you very long. If you’re JUST looking for the clearance for 33’s and will likely be on pavement 99% of the time, this lift may serve you well for many years. But WHEELING your rig 2-3 weekends a month will merit about a 10 month lifespan on both springs and shocks. Once these springs and shocks arrive I will have replaced every item included in the Zone 4.25 kit (less the body lift, still using that) with better components.
No regerts! <sic> but throwing this out for those of you who want to skip this learning step and get right to a proper lift the first time, go with something a little more trail proven and you won’t be “testing” to see what works best for you.

You may have had better luck with the Nitro shocks from Zone. Every hydraulic shock I've run tended to bottom out when I had gear in the back. They are too soft. I ran Zone Nitro shocks before and they kept all for corners steady without the bouncing. Just a thought....

Doesn't Zone have a decent warranty that would replace sagging coil springs? They do advertise that you can completely compress the spring and it will return to it's height.
 
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You may have had better luck with the Nitro shocks from Zone. Every hydraulic shock I've run tended to bottom out when I had gear in the back. They are too soft. I ran Zone Nitro shocks before and they kept all for corners steady without the bouncing. Just a thought....

Doesn't Zone have a decent warranty that would replace sagging coil springs? They do advertise that you can completely compress the spring and it will return to it's height.

A complete lift for that cheap is going to have to cut some corners somewhere. Reading on various forums, the shocks seem to be the weak link in the kit.
 
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A complete lift for that cheap is going to have to cut some corners somewhere. Reading on various forums, the shocks seem to be the weak link in the kit.

Not surprising. The shocks (and bushings) are also the weak link in the Rough Country kits (among other things actually).

Like you said, you don't make a kit for that cheap without cutting corners somewhere.
 
Much thanks for this review! I was thinking about getting this lift, but have now decided against it. I'll add some coils spacers until I have enough extra dough for a Currie lift. Thanks again for the honest review.
 
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Much thanks for this review! I was thinking about getting this lift, but have now decided against it. I'll add some coils spacers until I have enough extra dough for a Currie lift. Thanks again for the honest review.

Good choice man, you won't regret it!
 
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Questions: Until then, when adding 2" coil spacers do I need longer shocks? I need to replace those anyway. Longer brake lines?

Yes, you'll need to add new shocks with the coil spacers.
 
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Questions: Until then, when adding 2" coil spacers do I need longer shocks? I need to replace those anyway.
I ran a new set of Rancho shocks with my BB recently, for up to a 2" lift. Only used them for a couple months. They're on the shelf in my workshop. Let me know if you're interested...
 
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I ran a new set of Rancho shocks with my BB recently, for up to a 2" lift. Only used them for a couple months. They're on the shelf in my workshop. Let me know if you're interested...

I'm interested. Send a message.
 
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I have been eyeing the Zone 1.75 coil spring spacer kit, with the nitro shocks. I don't plan on using my TJ for wheeling purposes. I have a bad back, those kinds of things beat me up. I'm a street Jeeper, so I think this kit would be perfect for my use. Thanks for the information @CasterTroy, it was very informative.
 
I have been eyeing the Zone 1.75 coil spring spacer kit, with the nitro shocks. I don't plan on using my TJ for wheeling purposes. I have a bad back, those kinds of things beat me up. I'm a street Jeeper, so I think this kit would be perfect for my use. Thanks for the information @CasterTroy, it was very informative.
You won't be disappointed. I ran that setup on two TJs, worked perfectly well for that purpose.

I had a hybrid version of the Zone BB on my current Rubicon. I had the spacers from a previous TJ Zone BB, but not the shocks, so I purchased some
Rancho RS55239 & RS55241 shocks and the bump stop spacers, and it accomplished the same purpose.
 
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I have been eyeing the Zone 1.75 coil spring spacer kit, with the nitro shocks. I don't plan on using my TJ for wheeling purposes. I have a bad back, those kinds of things beat me up. I'm a street Jeeper, so I think this kit would be perfect for my use. Thanks for the information @CasterTroy, it was very informative.

If you're just using it on the street, then yes, you'll be very happy with it.