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Name one vehicle you commonly see sitting around at parts are not available for

'65 Chrysler sitting in my garage. ;) That's the car I can't even find a set of spare tail light lenses for. Just one of many items on the unobtainable list. :rolleyes: Oh, you said commonly.
 
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I bought 1 from them and it arrived damage like another that was posted here. Outer 2 tubes on 1 side were bent inward. I returned it but have not replaced it yet. I just want 1 for a spare. Mine was replaced with a new Mopar unit about 5-6 years ago.

Great, just when I thought this day couldn't get any worse. Do you have a link to the other person who posted about it?
 
'65 Chrysler sitting in my garage. ;) That's the car I can't even find a set of spare tail light lenses for. Just one of many items on the unobtainable list. :rolleyes: Oh, you said commonly.

You know I’m really speaking from the heart here- I think no matter what happens we love these so much we will be endlessly creative in keeping the fun going. In one sense we are all already doing it now.

But I do think it’s good we are having these conversations and we do need to be aware that there are going to be things that are going to be a little bit more of a headache than others-

All that said I have found many times in life is not the things we worry about that end up being the problem- It’s the crap that blindsides you at 3o’clock on a Tuesday. My point is there is probably a greater chance that pressure to keep vehicles off the road that consume fossil fuel may be more of a problem then some random electronic part we can’t get. That may be a stretch but my point is it may not be what we are worried about that we need to worry about.

This also may not be relevant but the TJ may have been produced at that weird technology stage where it isn’t simple enough to keep it going with somebody else’s part for instance like you could with a CJ sometimes, but at the same time complicated enough that you can’t work on the oddball part that fails- and the technology has has long since been outdated as well so scarcity is a concern.
 
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I’ve said before, I’ll say it again;
Who wants to go into business with me making quality TJ parts?
Probably no one because your too smart and not a glutton for punishment like I am.

Ok that aside, I installed the Napa radiator today and it leaves some things to be desired. It doesn’t leak as of now though so….I’m back in the game for this trip at least.
Install video coming soon.

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Ours is not an issue of longevity, the non Mopar stock style replacements just don't cool as well. I'd be okay with a 120 dollar radiator that didn't last but did work to cool the rig.

I think between you and I, we could build a pretty decent option.
 
You know I’m really speaking from the heart here- I think no matter what happens we love these so much we will be endlessly creative in keeping the fun going. In one since we are all already doing it now.

But I do think it’s good we are having these conversations and we do need to be aware that there are going to be things that are going to be a little bit more of a headache than others-

All that said I have found many times in life is not the things we worry about that end up being the problem- It’s the crap that blindsides you at 3o’clock on a Tuesday. My point is there is probably a greater chance that pressure to keep vehicles off the road that consume fossil fuel may be more of a problem then some random electronic part we can’t get. That may be a stretch but my point is it may not be what we are worried about that we need to worry about.

This also may not be relevant but the TJ may have been produced at that weird technology stage where it isn’t simple enough to keep it going with somebody else’s part for instance like you could with a CJ sometimes, but at the same time complicated enough that you can’t work on the oddball part that fails- and the technology has has long since been outdated as well so scarcity is a concern.

There are still a ton of SBC laying in junkyards that will run quite well off an old school distributor, MSD ignition box, and a Holly double pumper. Throw some mechanical gauges in and you'll be set.

Or, The Holly Terminator stuff is getting pretty good at this point. Mechanical gauges and an LS will get you away from the OEM sensors too.
 
There are still a ton of SBC laying in junkyards that will run quite well off an old school distributor, MSD ignition box, and a Holly double pumper. Throw some mechanical gauges in and you'll be set.

Or, The Holly Terminator stuff is getting pretty good at this point. Mechanical gauges and an LS will get you away from the OEM sensors too.

You know, being forced to V8 swap one might not he a bad fate-

As long as I have this forum I’m good- and this lamp, and and this chair......(Steve Martin, The Jerk)
 
I’ve said before, I’ll say it again;
Who wants to go into business with me making quality TJ parts?
Probably no one because your too smart and not a glutton for punishment like I am.

Ok that aside, I installed the Napa radiator today and it leaves some things to be desired. It doesn’t leak as of now though so….I’m back in the game for this trip at least.
Install video coming soon.

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Not trying to run your game, but if ya call around you might find out JL center caps snap right in them Bridgers.....

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You know, being forced to V8 swap one might not he a bad fate-

As long as I have this forum I’m good- and this lamp, and and this chair......(Steve Martin, The Jerk)

Honestly though, there are SO many 4.0L engines out there, I really doubt that keeping one running will be an issue. I've noticed northern and midwest jeeps seem to not have the electrical issues that stuff from down south has (especially the SW). We have rust issues, but the solar energy is much less, so the plastic doesn't degrade as badly. Not to mention how many wranglers will end up in the yards here with good sensors due to rust issues.
 
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Honestly though, there are SO many 4.0L engines out there, I really doubt that keeping one running will be an issue. I've noticed northern and midwest jeeps seem to not have the electrical issues that stuff from down south has (especially the SW). We have rust issues, but the solar energy is much less, so the plastic doesn't degrade as badly. Not to mention how many wranglers will end up in the yards here with good sensors due to rust issues.

I truly agree- and that was a thought I didn’t express well- with nearly 1 million units sold and most are 4.0 equipped, take off parts will be available- even though the 4.0 will outlive it’s own management system- hood locks may become a hot item among us hoodlums.🤣
 
Not to mention how many wranglers will end up in the yards here with good sensors due to rust issues.

Easy enough to identify a Mopar radiator. What about an oil pressure sensor...my "Mopar" one doesn't have markings...crank sensor...other small parts...and how would we tell what's good other than gambling with a purchase or lugging around a test rig.

We also need a good source for complete off the shelf wiring harnesses.

-Mac
 
I have no idea what your talking about

Let me rephrase it-

With your good looking yellow jeep, these yellow AEV JLWrangler center caps would really look nice, and should fit right in your wheels.
 
Easy enough to identify a Mopar radiator. What about an oil pressure sensor...my "Mopar" one doesn't have markings...crank sensor...other small parts...and how would we tell what's good other than gambling with a purchase or lugging around a test rig.

We also need a good source for complete off the shelf wiring harnesses.

-Mac

We should build em. Not rocket science. Ask me how I know. Lots of rocket experience.
 
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We should build em. Not rocket science. Ask me how I know. Lots of rocket experience.

The issue with the harness will be the connectors. Not hard to find, impossible to find at a cost effective level unless you buy a ridiculous amount of them. I could see tying up an exorbitant amount of money in just having cost effective connectors on hand to build a run of harnesses.

I am not discouraging anyone.
 
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We should build em. Not rocket science. Ask me how I know. Lots of rocket experience.

Or advocate to Stelantis/Mopar/Jeep or whomever is manufacturing said parts that there is still a market...or at least give us a heads up before discontinuing production so we can put in a large final order.

Someone made these before they were told to stop. It wasn't Jeep. We know Bestop made the soft top. Who made the radiators? Who made the sensors?

-Mac
 
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I think I found some forum posts pointing to Agility Auto Parts making Napa radiators...if that helps... website sure seems to say all the right things.

https://agilityautoparts.com/product-families/radiators/

I for one appreciate a stress free packaging experience...

"APDI utilizes a double wall corrugated “pizza box” style design which gives the radiator maximum protection but gives the customer a stress-free way of viewing and removing the radiator from the box."

-Mac
 
I think I found some forum posts pointing to Agility Auto Parts making Napa radiators...if that helps... website sure seems to say all the right things.

[URL]https://agilityautoparts.com/product-families/radiators/[/URL]


I for one appreciate a stress free packaging experience...

"APDI utilizes a double wall corrugated “pizza box” style design which gives the radiator maximum protection but gives the customer a stress-free way of viewing and removing the radiator from the box."

-Mac

Some things look similar to the Napa. Not the packaging though, which could make sense being how they rebrand it.