Southwest folks affected by the hurricane

Its only gonna be a tropical storm by the time it makes landfall from the NOAA/NHC map. Here in Florida, that isn't even of concern, but with the hills in California, flash floods are a virtual certainty along with the usual mudslides, etc.

With that said, IGNORE the talking heads on MSM, pay attention to NOAA/NHC and keep your weather radio on.
 
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I was hoping that Hillary was going to kick some ass. When I was a heavy eq. operator down there, we would rake in some serious overtime
money clearing the flood basins and channels. I hope that my former co-workers stay safe while they do what they love.

And we shouldn't put down where others live, we should help where we can.
 
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MountaineerTom said:
It's more than some wind and water. When you get double, triple or more rain in a day or two vs what you may get in a whole year, it's a problem. The worst I've personally been through was 2015. Somewhere around 16 hours of heavy down pouring rain and sustained high winds. 19 inches of rain during that time. More in some of the surrounding areas.

In twenty years of living in my house, this was the only time I've had any kind of standing water on my street. We were very fortunate and only had a couple small roof leaks. Others around had it a lot worse. We don't have mountains in our area to cause rushing flash floods, it was more of a somewhat slow, steady rise of water.

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Areas that don't get heavy rainfall are going to underestimate it, but only once.

My family has a cabin near Rocky mountain NP and the Big Thompson River which experienced disaster-level flooding in 1976 and is still embedded in the local psyche so everybody familiar with the area has grown up hearing about it and knows what to do. The 1976 flood killed 143. They rebuilt, put in signs "in case of flood, climb to safety", and created a system to distribute warnings of impending flash floods. In 2013 another flood surpassed the 1976 high water mark and caused more property and infrastructure damage but "only" killed 9. My parents were at the cabin a few weeks ago and got an automated phone call at 1:30am issuing an evacuation. The cabin is hundreds of feet above the river so they stayed and it worked out.

Both the major floods were associated with nearby areas reporting totals within what is being predicted for this storm. In those areas, these are 100 and 500 year storms. In parts of the eastern half of the country it's a particularly wet Tuesday, but without the topography funneling it down canyons and magnifying the water depth.
 
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roverhi said:
Coastal Oceanside, N San Diego County, have only had moderate rain starting last night. No high winds or drenching down pours. Did get a flash flood alert last night for a small area in the desert much farther East. Don't know if anything came of it. Looks like a tempest in a teapot made for the news purveyors doom is here scenario.

Had pretty active lightning inland to the east yesterday afternoon before the rain started. Fortunately no fires came from it,
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My old stomping grounds, worked at a place called Smokey’s speed shop in Oceanside when I was going to high school in Vista. Lived out in gopher canyon, so it turned out not to be a practical short lived after school job
 
MountaineerTom said:
It's more than some wind and water. When you get double, triple or more rain in a day or two vs what you may get in a whole year, it's a problem. The worst I've personally been through was 2015. Somewhere around 16 hours of heavy down pouring rain and sustained high winds. 19 inches of rain during that time. More in some of the surrounding areas.

In twenty years of living in my house, this was the only time I've had any kind of standing water on my street. We were very fortunate and only had a couple small roof leaks. Others around had it a lot worse. We don't have mountains in our area to cause rushing flash floods, it was more of a somewhat slow, steady rise of water.

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Yep, hurricanes are rough. I just don't care if it washes socal away. The lightning from summer storms is my worry
 
Yep they done pissed off mother nature out there, now she hit them with a earthquake too ! maybe she's making Mexican and Democrat stew !
 
I wonder if the Salton Sea will get a lot of fill. We drove by it on the East highway 111 a couple years ago coming down from Palm Springs in a VW TDI and it was pouring, got downright scary with all the dips filled with chocolate colored fast running water, I was afraid we were going to get stranded but we made it out in time. It was over the door sills a couple times.
 
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I don't know... Mexican Stew sounds more appealing than the Kracker Salad the east coast whips up.
 
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freedom_in_4low said:
Areas that don't get heavy rainfall are going to underestimate it, but only once.

My family has a cabin near Rocky mountain NP and the Big Thompson River which experienced disaster-level flooding in 1976 and is still embedded in the local psyche so everybody familiar with the area has grown up hearing about it and knows what to do. The 1976 flood killed 143. They rebuilt, put in signs "in case of flood, climb to safety", and created a system to distribute warnings of impending flash floods. In 2013 another flood surpassed the 1976 high water mark and caused more property and infrastructure damage but "only" killed 9. My parents were at the cabin a few weeks ago and got an automated phone call at 1:30am issuing an evacuation. The cabin is hundreds of feet above the river so they stayed and it worked out.

Both the major floods were associated with nearby areas reporting totals within what is being predicted for this storm. In those areas, these are 100 and 500 year storms. In parts of the eastern half of the country it's a particularly wet Tuesday, but without the topography funneling it down canyons and magnifying the water depth.
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If you ever or anyone else for that matter ever makes it to Rubicon Springs, see if they will let you take a peek in the caretaker cabin on the left just as you enter the springs. When you get just inside the front door, look up at the back wall where they have the high water level marked from when it flooded there. From the outside, there would have been a few feet of the roof peak showing.
 
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If you ever or anyone else for that matter ever makes it to Rubicon Springs, see if they will let you take a peek in the caretaker cabin on the left just as you enter the springs. When you get just inside the front door, look up at the back wall where they have the high water level marked from when it flooded there. From the outside, there would have been a few feet of the roof peak showing.
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it's on the bucket list.


I think what people miss is when they see videos of hurricane flooding in the flatlands it's just a bunch of dirty, deep water, but it doesn't move a lot. In the mountains it's a different story.

This is a video made by a guy that lives full time a half mile down the road from our family place. It's a long watch but it's worth at least skipping through and seeing both the violence of the water as well as the progression of the depth and the damage.



This flood washed out a section of highway that took 5 years and $300M to rebuild.
 
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