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If you have access to a 4X4 squared , I would love to see some front axle/driveline photos ! Thanks DuckNut .

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I see you're pony, but I'll give it the bird.

I'd have no problem with that. The only shame of that one (if any, really) is Firebirds seem to be a bit more rare than the Camaros of the same vintage.


2nd gens make a better looking race car.

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We'll differ on that point. I'm okay with the Camaro/Firebird up to '73, after that I lose interest. And I say that having owned a '76 Camaro and my first base/clear overall paint job being on a '79 Firebird.
 
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The only shame of that one (if any, really) is Firebirds seem to be a bit more rare than the Camaros of the same vintage.

The Firebird market is weird. Speaking of the 1st and 2nd gen cars, a Firebird will typically sell for 2/3 of what a comparable Camaro sells for, and I don't know why. T/As are an exception. I prefer the 'Birds and T/As, but I'm partial, I have a '67 if you don't remember, one of something like 1,100 produced not accounting for color or option combos.

Edit; I don't know how accurate this is, and I don't have time to dig deeper, but this is what google returned for 1st gen production numbers.
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Edit again; the above AI stuff seemed off and misleading, so I did it, I dug a little deeper.

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So that's 276,683 1st gen Firebirds to 699,138 1st gen Camaros.
 
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Rewatching "the accident", it still messes with my mind. He had been through so many accidents that had all the makings of being fatal, and he survived them. That accident was not the one that I would have imagined ending that way. Yes, we all know and understand the mechanics of what happened to his body, but still, to watch that accident again, all these years later, I can't help but find myself in some level of disbelief.
 
I'd have no problem with that. The only shame of that one (if any, really) is Firebirds seem to be a bit more rare than the Camaros of the same vintage.

The Firebird market is weird. Speaking of the 1st and 2nd gen cars, a Firebird will typically sell for 2/3 of what a comparable Camaro sells for, and I don't know why. T/As are an exception. I prefer the 'Birds and T/As, but I'm partial, I have a '67 if you don't remember, one of something like 1,100 produced not accounting for color or option combos.

Somewhere on either Craigslist or Marketplace (I use my wife's account to parous the local listings. I liken it to pumping gas while smoking a cigarette...), there's a fella selling a first-gen Firebird project that has had everything converted over to Camaro parts. If I recall, he's asking a Camaro price, as well. I don't see why anyone would go through the trouble unless, I guess, that they were damn sure that they were building it as their "forever car". Even then, the justification eludes me.
 
Somewhere on either Craigslist or Marketplace (I use my wife's account to parous the local listings. I liken it to pumping gas while smoking a cigarette...), there's a fella selling a first-gen Firebird project that has had everything converted over to Camaro parts. If I recall, he's asking a Camaro price, as well. I don't see why anyone would go through the trouble unless, I guess, that they were damn sure that they were building it as their "forever car". Even then, the justification eludes me.

One of my cousins did that to a '80-'81 Turbo car 20 years ago. F'd it up in my opinion. The one you're speaking of, did they go all the way and do sheet meatal too, like quarters? Either way, I'll guess he'll be lucky to get 1/2 of anything, and that's if he finds a fool to buy it.
 
Rewatching "the accident", it still messes with my mind. He had been through so many accidents that had all the makings of being fatal, and he survived them. That accident was not the one that I would have imagined ending that way. Yes, we all know and understand the mechanics of what happened to his body, but still, to watch that accident again, all these years later, I can't help but find myself in some level of disbelief.

Basilar skull fractures are an oddity, but also a common cause of death in motor racing, historically. Head and neck restraints have all but eliminated them.

Basilar skull fractures are a common cause of death in many motor racing accidents. Drivers who have died as a result of basilar skull fractures include Formula One driver Roland Ratzenberger; IndyCar drivers Bill Vukovich Sr., Tony Bettenhausen Sr., Floyd Roberts, and Scott Brayton; NASCAR drivers Dale Earnhardt Sr., Adam Petty, Tony Roper, Kenny Irwin Jr., Neil Bonnett, John Nemechek, J. D. McDuffie, and Richie Evans; CART drivers Jovy Marcelo, Greg Moore, and Gonzalo Rodriguez; and ARCA drivers Blaise Alexander and Slick Johnson. Ernie Irvan is a survivor of a basilar skull fracture sustained at an accident during practice at the Michigan International Speedway in 1994. Race car drivers Stanley Smith and Rick Carelli also survived a basilar skull fracture.
 
One of my cousins did that to a '80-'81 Turbo car 20 years ago. F'd it up in my opinion. The one you're speaking of, did they go all the way and do sheet meatal too, like quarters? Either way, I'll guess he'll be lucky to get 1/2 of anything, and that's if he finds a fool to buy it.

Yes, he did the quarters and whatever else was "needed". I will give him credit for being upfront about it all, but he likely wouldn't have a choice, as anyone who'd be willing to pay his asking price (I only remember that I thought it was outrageous, knowing what he had done) would likely run the VIN and choke when they caught on to the ruse.
 
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