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[suicideking]

I believe publisher has been gone for a while? When Adobe got in the game with pagemaker us in the printing industry called it ragemaker. Now canva is being used and it is total garbage, I woun't even quote a job that the customer made in that program.

The publisher EOL (end of life) date is October 1st. So not dead yet, but very close. I won't miss it because I do IT support. So I have had users bring me their Publisher doc and wanting help with fixing it, which I won't do unless it's a quick fix. I'm not helping you center the image that was stolen from someone's website lol.

I have heard of Canva, but thankfully it's not a supported app at my work. So I will wish them luck on their personal PC.

 

[5632]

Zobra - I have not seen where you have given instructions on how to take pictures with the new folding phone?

 

[Zorba]

I didn't mean proselytize in the religious sense, but you know what I mean.

We are the problem. In fact, one of the best things about the Bible (to me at least) is that it teaches me that the biggest problem in my life is me. Of course it's always easier to point the fingers at someone else.

I didn't think the smartphone apologists were the worst! I would have thought it was the social media apologists who jump through hoops just to justify giving their information to Zuckertwat and the likes.

They'll complain about forums like this going down hill but then fail to recognize that a big part of that is because they've left forums for social media! Blows my mind, honestly.

You mean the ones who keep posting stuff from "social media" on sites like this? If I wanted "social media", I would go to a "social media" site; I sure don't want to see that crap here - yet here we are.

I read this: The smartphone, shaped in part by marketing departments, simply gives people more of what they already wanted, such as news and social media. That's probably why I don't see the point of the thing, I don't want news and "social media"! This academic "white paper" worth a read if you're interesed in a deep dive on this subject: https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/6307/5136

 

[Zorba]

We are the problem. In fact, one of the best things about the Bible (to me at least) is that it teaches me that the biggest problem in my life is me.

All ethical systems do. I live my life by the ancient Delphic commandment: "Know Thyself". My first year of studying under my HPs was 99.9999% "Know Thyself", and it continues to be an important part of my studies today!

I know that I have a hair trigger when it comes to PHOOOOOONNEs and other digital stupidity. I actually have been working on NOT jumping in EVERY time such things come up - but my ever evolving - or devolving - viewpoints make it pretty easy to "be poked" - esp. in a thread like this one! But lots of folks here seem to enjoy "poking the bear", so I'll oblige them!

"Smartphones are at the center of our digital lives..." - Uh, no. Even worse are similar statements that omit the word "digital". Oh HELL no!

 

[Zorba]

This reminds me of a situation a LONG time ago, probably early 2000s, as told to me by someone at the dealership.

The CEO of one of our customers always had to have the latest and greatest computer to better play Free Cell.

The computer for his lady who ran payroll was on the fritz so she needed to use his to run payroll.

She set everything up and started the payroll application for the pay period, then she got up and walked out because it usually took several minutes to run on her computer.

Before she got out the office door, the CEO computer chimed that it was done. Less than a minute.

She raised a stink and then she also got the latest and greatest from that point on.

Rule #1: Secretaries and similar ALWAYS have the best and newest computers. I have stories!

 

[Zorba]

Zobra - I have not seen where you have given instructions on how to take pictures with the new folding phone?

It would be nice if it defaulted to horizontal - or square - but I'm not holding my breathe.

 

[Zorba]

I believe publisher has been gone for a while? When Adobe got in the game with pagemaker us in the printing industry called it ragemaker. Now canva is being used and it is total garbage, I woun't even quote a job that the customer made in that program.

Adobe can fuck off. Their software has always been fabulous, but I'll use a stone tablet and chisels before I'll buy into their subscription bullshit.

I use Canva a bit - I'm the editor of our Belly Dance club newsletter and the club president has a subscription and gives me access. For what it is - a web "App" - its pretty amazing. Compared to a "real program", not so much. I certainly wouldn't want to pay for it.

 

[Chris]

You mean the ones who keep posting stuff from "social media" on sites like this? If I wanted "social media", I would go to a "social media" site; I sure don't want to see that crap here - yet here we are.

I read this: The smartphone, shaped in part by marketing departments, simply gives people more of what they already wanted, such as news and social media. That's probably why I don't see the point of the thing, I don't want news and "social media"! This academic "white paper" worth a read if you're interesed in a deep dive on this subject: https://firstmonday.org/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/6307/5136

Yep, I've considered man times banning Facebook links.

I realize that in this world we are going to have to pick and choose who we do business with. Almost all corporations are doing some sort of bad. However, if you were to ask me who one of the worst human beings in the world is I would argue it's Mark Zuckertwat and his company Meta.

The fact that we know what we know about Zuckertwat and Facebook and yet people continue to give him their business (attention) is beyond me. It infuriates me, actually.

I'll check out that article. More-and-more often I just leave my phone at home when we go out. I've been weening myself off of it little-by-little.

 

[Chris]

Adobe can fuck off.

Adobe can indeed! I used to like them but once they switched to the subscription model I told them to pound sand.

Just like Klaus said..."you'll own nothing and be happy"

 

[Chris]

It would be nice if it defaulted to horizontal - or square - but I'm not holding my breathe.

Maybe it'll default to square since the screen is square

 

[Zorba]

Yep, I've considered man times banning Facebook links.

I realize that in this world we are going to have to pick and choose who we do business with. Almost all corporations are doing some sort of bad. However, if you were to ask me who one of the worst human beings in the world is I would argue it's Mark Zuckertwat and his company Meta.

The fact that we know what we know about Zuckertwat and Facebook and yet people continue to give him their business (attention) is beyond me. It infuriates me, actually.

I'll check out that article. More-and-more often I just leave my phone at home when we go out. I've been weening myself off of it little-by-little.

You can firewall them all out as far as I'm concerned - it would sure clean up the forum. As for taking a phone of any kind when going out: I frequently forget mine - but in the absence of payphones and a 41 year old car (never mind Florididiot drivers), I feel that I need to take my flip. I resent it, but I do it. If I could have multiple phones with the same number and not have to pay out the ass for it, I'd just put a flip in all 3 cars and forget about it. I don't find it conVEEEEEEEEENient to have to take a phone with me. It does generally just stay in the car while I'm conducting my business though.

Yea, I have zero use for Zuckertwat - but Google, the overall TelCo business, and many others are just as bad - the only difference is they've learned from Zuckertwat. And the CarCos have learned from the TelCos. Blah, blah, blah...

 

[suicideking]

Adobe can indeed! I used to like them but once they switched to the subscription model I told them to pound sand.

Just like Klaus said..."you'll own nothing and be happy"

Microsoft started that trend with Office 365 subscriptions. No more of this 'pay once' BS where you get to use it on this computer and every future computer it will run on. Then they don't get money every year.

Adobe and many others saw that and said 'me too'. I believe Adobe Acrobat 9 or 10 was the last one you could buy outright. After that it became Adobe Acrobat DC. Though 'Adobe Cloud' you can now license their entire suite. Illustrator, Photoshop, etc.

Definitely a licensing nightmare for IT people when their DC license expires and they didn't let you know when they got the 30 day notice. Now it's urgent!

 

[suicideking]

Rule #1: Secretaries and similar ALWAYS have the best and newest computers. I have stories!

Usually the squeaky wheels get the newest PC's. Whoever can cause the most turmoil for you and your manager.

They don't like it when they complain about their 'slow, old, PC' then I ask them to show me what's slow. Open task manager: No your memory, CPU, and SSD are not even above 50%, so reboot if you're having problems.

My last job, we leased most equipment. Sometimes word would get out that we're sending out brand new laptops (prioritized for new employees, lease returns, and upper level execs). So we get calls from people in the same dept. that they're 'having problems and want a replacement'. Start sending out the refurbs to quiet that down.

 

[Chris]

Microsoft started that trend with Office 365 subscriptions. No more of this 'pay once' BS where you get to use it on this computer and every future computer it will run on. Then they don't get money every year.

Adobe and many others saw that and said 'me too'. I believe Adobe Acrobat 9 or 10 was the last one you could buy outright. After that it became Adobe Acrobat DC. Though 'Adobe Cloud' you can now license their entire suite. Illustrator, Photoshop, etc.

Definitely a licensing nightmare for IT people when their DC license expires and they didn't let you know when they got the 30 day notice. Now it's urgent!

Yep! I've just about had it with this subscription based B.S. I've stopped using all products that require subscriptions because of it.

 

[Zorba]

Yep! I've just about had it with this subscription based B.S. I've stopped using all products that require subscriptions because of it.

Good for you. I never started...

 

[Zorba]

Microsoft started that trend with Office 365 subscriptions. No more of this 'pay once' BS where you get to use it on this computer and every future computer it will run on. Then they don't get money every year.

Adobe and many others saw that and said 'me too'. I believe Adobe Acrobat 9 or 10 was the last one you could buy outright. After that it became Adobe Acrobat DC. Though 'Adobe Cloud' you can now license their entire suite. Illustrator, Photoshop, etc.

Definitely a licensing nightmare for IT people when their DC license expires and they didn't let you know when they got the 30 day notice. Now it's urgent!

For some reason, I thought Adobe started it first - but no matter. Something else I don't participate in.

 

[Apparition]

Microsoft started that trend with Office 365 subscriptions. No more of this 'pay once' BS where you get to use it on this computer and every future computer it will run on. Then they don't get money every year.

Adobe and many others saw that and said 'me too'. I believe Adobe Acrobat 9 or 10 was the last one you could buy outright. After that it became Adobe Acrobat DC. Though 'Adobe Cloud' you can now license their entire suite. Illustrator, Photoshop, etc.

Definitely a licensing nightmare for IT people when their DC license expires and they didn't let you know when they got the 30 day notice. Now it's urgent!

I hate the Office 365 subscription stuff.

I bought Office pro licenses for all my computers so I don't need to keep paying.

 

[suicideking]

I hate the Office 365 subscription stuff.

I bought Office pro licenses for all my computers so I don't need to keep paying.

That's a much better deal. Many don't know you can still purchase that and not have to deal with 365 fees. Looks like you can buy Office Professional Plus 'lifetime subscription' for around $30.

Someone I used to do side work for buys a 'gray market' $5 - $10 license on Ebay. You get one activation, then have to buy it a again next time. A bit shady, but it's hard to feel sorry for MS.

 

[Apparition]

That's a much better deal. Many don't know you can still purchase that and not have to deal with 365 fees. Looks like you can buy Office Professional Plus 'lifetime subscription' for around $30.

Someone I used to do side work for buys a 'gray market' $5 - $10 license on Ebay. You get one activation, then have to buy it a again next time. A bit shady, but it's hard to feel sorry for MS.

Yeah, I think I used Woot at one point for a license and some other site like that where I think I got a 2 for $30 deal. Way better than $100/year or whatever it is now.

 

[cliffish]

Adobe can fuck off. Their software has always been fabulous, but I'll use a stone tablet and chisels before I'll buy into their subscription bullshit.

I use Canva a bit - I'm the editor of our Belly Dance club newsletter and the club president has a subscription and gives me access. For what it is - a web "App" - its pretty amazing. Compared to a "real program", not so much. I certainly wouldn't want to pay for it.

Problem is, I am in the print industry (what's left of it) and most Canva users have no idea about resolution and panel size for a folding brochure.

Yeah, I think I used Woot at one point for a license and some other site like that where I think I got a 2 for $30 deal. Way better than $100/year or whatever it is now.

I got this tip from you a long while ago