Will the LJ fit into my toy hauler?
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BACON!!!!!
I couldn't tell you just from the pictures because I don't know what the inside looks like. You can always take a tape measure and measure the widths and lengths of the interior of the toy hauler and of the jeep to see if you can fit or if you'll be hitting something.
I couldn't tell you just from the pictures because I don't know what the inside looks like. You can always take a tape measure and measure the widths and lengths of the interior of the toy hauler and of the jeep to see if you can fit or if you'll be hitting something.
I don't think that trailer is capable of handling that kind of weight. There's a tag somewhere and usually titled as CCC (Combined Carrying Capacity). This number signifies the LEFTOVER weight the trailer can carry AFTER build out and usually does not include full water tanks, gas tanks, etc.
The reason I explain this, and you may have already known all that, is because as you approach the capacity weight limit, catastrophic things will start to go wrong. A buddy of mine did exactly what you are attempting and after the third "trip" he noticed rub marks at the top corners where the wall adjoined the ceiling. He took it in to an RV repair place and they diagnosed the wall was separating from the ceiling due to being overloaded with weight. They asked him what he was putting in the trailer and they advised him that is not what these toy box trailers are designed to do. The bouncing of the Jeep as he traveled the road was causing the rub marks and separation.
Just info for you. I know alot of fifth wheel guys will flat tow the jeep behind the trailer. That's legal in most states with a fifth wheel and an "upgraded" driver's license, as long as you do not exceed the overall length limit.
The reason I explain this, and you may have already known all that, is because as you approach the capacity weight limit, catastrophic things will start to go wrong. A buddy of mine did exactly what you are attempting and after the third "trip" he noticed rub marks at the top corners where the wall adjoined the ceiling. He took it in to an RV repair place and they diagnosed the wall was separating from the ceiling due to being overloaded with weight. They asked him what he was putting in the trailer and they advised him that is not what these toy box trailers are designed to do. The bouncing of the Jeep as he traveled the road was causing the rub marks and separation.
Just info for you. I know alot of fifth wheel guys will flat tow the jeep behind the trailer. That's legal in most states with a fifth wheel and an "upgraded" driver's license, as long as you do not exceed the overall length limit.
OP
10 Bacon and 6 No
It fits, but barely. I had to pull out the lower-Queen Bed, Both Couches, and take the Dinette off the wall.
The tires are actually under the cabinets. About 4" of clearance per side between the cabinets and the windshield. I pulled the mirrors off for the trip too.
I didn't plan to cross-tie the Jeep, but Mike at Mac told me with the tie-down D facing sideways (left to right, rather than front to back), it would be better. I may try to swap those out at some point.
I have 8 connection points (3 Front, 3 Rear, and 2 on the sides attached to the frame.
We drove up to Johnson Valley on Friday and it doesn't look like the Jeep moved at all during either trip.
It fits, but barely. I had to pull out the lower-Queen Bed, Both Couches, and take the Dinette off the wall.
The tires are actually under the cabinets. About 4" of clearance per side between the cabinets and the windshield. I pulled the mirrors off for the trip too.
I didn't plan to cross-tie the Jeep, but Mike at Mac told me with the tie-down D facing sideways (left to right, rather than front to back), it would be better. I may try to swap those out at some point.
I have 8 connection points (3 Front, 3 Rear, and 2 on the sides attached to the frame.
We drove up to Johnson Valley on Friday and it doesn't look like the Jeep moved at all during either trip.
OP
I hear you. I need to weight the actual Jeep, but I should be good.
Base Curb Weight for a 2004 LJ is 3770. I pulled off the hard top, so my weight is about 3620 plus mods.
Rough Trailer Calcs:
Next Level CCC - 3202
- 30 gallons of Gas (empty fuel station) +189
- 70 gallons of Water (1/2 full) +583
- Rear Bed +150
- 2 Couches +120
- 2 Chairs + 80
Bare CCC 4324
Pffft, what kind of answer is that? Measure? You know what's easier than measuring? A running start. With enough speed, it'll fit.
When doing a cross tie down, IF one strap got loose wouldn’t it basically make the other tie loose if the vehicle moved just a bit?
Where if each corner is tied it would still maintain tension if the one on the same end got a bit loose? Also, is there a difference when attaching to a tire if it lost pressure or when attaching to the axle if pressure drops?
It all looks cool cross tied going down the road on an open trailer, especially with different colored straps.
I bought a truck that was displayed in the dealership showroom once, does that count?
I wish I had a toyhauler...and toys that needed a toyhauler.
I highly suggest not crossing straps... worst way to tie down. You lost a strap the remaining strap will send the vehicle sideways...
Also, go weigh your Jeep, I almost guarantee it will be heavier than you think.
Personally, I think you're cutting it too close, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if you're actually overweight. don't forget the weight of food, clothes, bedding, sundries, and all that other stuff we put in and carry around in our campers all the time. Also don't forget the weight of your recovery gear, tools etc. that you carry in the Jeep in addition to the addons.
Best suggestion, go weight the Jeep with full fuel tank, normal gear loadout. Now go weigh your trailer with it loaded as it would be during use as well and use real numbers. I'd bet money the real numbers don't match up with the paper numbers.
Also, go weigh your Jeep, I almost guarantee it will be heavier than you think.
Personally, I think you're cutting it too close, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if you're actually overweight. don't forget the weight of food, clothes, bedding, sundries, and all that other stuff we put in and carry around in our campers all the time. Also don't forget the weight of your recovery gear, tools etc. that you carry in the Jeep in addition to the addons.
Best suggestion, go weight the Jeep with full fuel tank, normal gear loadout. Now go weigh your trailer with it loaded as it would be during use as well and use real numbers. I'd bet money the real numbers don't match up with the paper numbers.
OP
I have weighed the Truck and the Trailer (empty). The actual trailer weight was 12,600. So that is within 60 lbs of the sticker on the closet door.
I do need to weigh the Jeep and the trailer with all the clothes, food, camp chairs, etc. But I should have about 700 lbs of leeway.
I do need to weigh the Jeep and the trailer with all the clothes, food, camp chairs, etc. But I should have about 700 lbs of leeway.
Load it up completely and go weight it to see how close you are to 16,950. THAT'S the only way you'll know. If you're really curious and scale guys are being cool, unload the Jeep and do a second weight. The new number is your tare weight, and the difference is the Jeep weight. Still, cutting it real close I think. How much weight is your truck OK to pull?
