Replacing door defeat mini fuse with a mini breaker as a switch?

toximus

toximus

I buy Chinese
Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
7,766
Location
Northern WI
In my recent hunt through electrical catalogs I came across a unique product. It's a mini breaker that seems to fit in place of a mini fuse slot. The part number is 1610-H2-10A (I attached a PDF with the specs). They're about $10 and I'm thinking could work as a switch in the OEM location for the door defeat fuse.

1715382834817.png
 

Attachments

  • D_1610_ENG-1109200.pdf
    252.8 KB · Views: 23
  • Like
Reactions: MichaelGH, Rickyd and starkey480
Anyone wants one of the switches hit me up.. I made one like the Q'Tec switch and later replaced it with the Mercedes Benz door switches.. It's sitting in my parts bin someplace.
 
toximus said:
In my recent hunt through electrical catalogs I came across a unique product. It's a mini breaker that seems to fit in place of a mini fuse slot. The part number is 1610-H2-10A (I attached a PDF with the specs). They're about $10 and I'm thinking could work as a switch in the OEM location for the door defeat fuse.

View attachment 525866
Click to expand...

I have always wondered how those might work- love to hear.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tnjeepguy
Is the average breaker designed to be used as a switch as many times as a switch gets used without wearing out? For some reason I vaguely remember someone saying that they aren't, maybe during my Electricity Class at the vocational school 40 years ago.
 
JEEPCJTJ said:
Is the average breaker designed to be used as a switch as many times as a switch gets used without wearing out? For some reason I vaguely remember someone saying that they aren't, maybe during my Electricity Class at the vocational school 40 years ago.
Click to expand...

Depends on the breaker and if there's a surge (inrush) current.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tworley
According to this, the fuse is actually ATO fuse size, not Mini: https://www.e-t-a.com/fileadmin/use...res_en/B_TRA-Schutzschalter_Uebersicht_en.pdf So it won't work for this application.

1620-3H-10A is the correct size for Mini.

1715462594637.png


Seems like it'd stick out really far compared to the other fuses and risk getting bent. Cool that these things exist, but I think that's a deal breaker for me for this application.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: NashvilleTJ and MichaelGH
I am not sure if it was coincidence or it’s supposed to be this way. I noticed after I removed the fuse for the interior lights, the buzzer notifying me I left the headlights on no longer works. I haven’t put the fuse back in to see if it would start working again. I like the idea of the switch since I won’t misplace the fuse.
 
  • Like
Reactions: freedom_in_4low
toximus said:
According to this, the fuse is actually ATO fuse size, not Mini: https://www.e-t-a.com/fileadmin/use...res_en/B_TRA-Schutzschalter_Uebersicht_en.pdf So it won't work for this application.

1620-3H-10A is the correct size for Mini.

View attachment 526065

Seems like it'd stick out really far compared to the other fuses and risk getting bent. Cool that these things exist, but I think that's a deal breaker for me for this application.
Click to expand...

I used one of these when I was diagnosing my brake lights. The 20amp kept popping intermittently. So I bought this to reset without having to use up a new 20amp fuse

Worked great. Length didn’t matter and it worked for me during a 200mile road trip.

I say use it. They’re super handy for diagnosis.
 
  • Like
Reactions: MichaelGH and toximus
Danarch said:
I am not sure if it was coincidence or it’s supposed to be this way. I noticed after I removed the fuse for the interior lights, the buzzer notifying me I left the headlights on no longer works. I haven’t put the fuse back in to see if it would start working again. I like the idea of the switch since I won’t misplace the fuse.
Click to expand...

The buzzer sounds when the headlights are on with the ignition off and a door open. Since pulling the fuse defeats the door switches, that buzzer won’t function with the fuse out.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FarFire70, freedom_in_4low, MikekiM and 2 others
zebra12 said:
How does the MB switch install/work?
Click to expand...
Replace the door pins with MB door pins. Looks like the price of the switch as just about tripled since I bought them. I paid less than $20 per switch.

With doors off/open you can simply pull the pin out until it clicks, locking it in the off position and that defeats the circuit.. same result as pulling the fuse or installing a switch. Put doors back on and close them and it pushes the pin back in to the normal spring loaded position to work as normal.

I often use it when I working on the Jeep and the doors are open for extended periods... just to be safe

I made a switch that was mounted under the passenger footwell but fumbling around to find it by hand was a PITA. Sitting in my parts pile somewhere.. i
 
  • Like
Reactions: zebra12
MikekiM said:
Replace the door pins with MB door pins. Looks like the price of the switch as just about tripled since I bought them. I paid less than $20 per switch.

With doors off/open you can simply pull the pin out until it clicks, locking it in the off position and that defeats the circuit.. same result as pulling the fuse or installing a switch. Put doors back on and close them and it pushes the pin back in to the normal spring loaded position to work as normal.

I often use it when I working on the Jeep and the doors are open for extended periods... just to be safe

I made a switch that was mounted under the passenger footwell but fumbling around to find it by hand was a PITA. Sitting in my parts pile somewhere.. i
Click to expand...

Wow... I have had mine installed for 2 years so I hadn't looked at prices lately. I just looked up my order and I got mine on Amazon for $14 each. I'm seeing them as high as $80 online. That's insane.
 
  • Wow
  • Like
Reactions: JMT and MikekiM
WVJeep304 said:
Wow... I have had mine installed for 2 years so I hadn't looked at prices lately. I just looked up my order and I got mine on Amazon for $14 each. I'm seeing them as high as $80 online. That's insane.
Click to expand...

Agreed.. I paid $16 each. Pretty sure I have at least one 'extra' in my parts bin.. maybe two.
 
Jack_Stefan said:
I used one of these when I was diagnosing my brake lights. The 20amp kept popping intermittently. So I bought this to reset without having to use up a new 20amp fuse

Worked great. Length didn’t matter and it worked for me during a 200mile road trip.

I say use it. They’re super handy for diagnosis.
Click to expand...

I'm having the same issue although my brake light fuse has only blown once in a year. I put in a fuse with an LED indicator so I can occasionally open the glove box, step on the brake and check. What did your intermittent fuse blowing turn out to be?
 
MikekiM said:
Replace the door pins with MB door pins. Looks like the price of the switch as just about tripled since I bought them. I paid less than $20 per switch.

With doors off/open you can simply pull the pin out until it clicks, locking it in the off position and that defeats the circuit.. same result as pulling the fuse or installing a switch. Put doors back on and close them and it pushes the pin back in to the normal spring loaded position to work as normal.

I often use it when I working on the Jeep and the doors are open for extended periods... just to be safe

I made a switch that was mounted under the passenger footwell but fumbling around to find it by hand was a PITA. Sitting in my parts pile somewhere.. i
Click to expand...

This is the solution I'm going with! Thanks for mentioning it!

Anyone know what the 3 way connector is that factory Jeep used?
 
MikekiM said:
Replace the door pins with MB door pins. Looks like the price of the switch as just about tripled since I bought them. I paid less than $20 per switch.

With doors off/open you can simply pull the pin out until it clicks, locking it in the off position and that defeats the circuit.. same result as pulling the fuse or installing a switch. Put doors back on and close them and it pushes the pin back in to the normal spring loaded position to work as normal.

I often use it when I working on the Jeep and the doors are open for extended periods... just to be safe

I made a switch that was mounted under the passenger footwell but fumbling around to find it by hand was a PITA. Sitting in my parts pile somewhere.. i
Click to expand...

Do they need a mercedes pigtail to be spliced in?
 
Top Bottom
Back