Looking for a brake upgrade with more "cold bite"

okslim

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So after wheeling my 2003 Rubicon this past weekend I have decided I need a brake upgrade. Now before everyone locks up the site trying to post "Black Magic" all at the same time, listen to what I am looking for. The issue I am experiencing is with cold brakes. When out crawling around, I would like to have more brakes available for the steep descents and being able to ease down ledges, etc. I know people have touted Black Magic for their increase in pedal feel and stopping distance, especially when the tire sizes get up there, but I am looking for something with more "cold bite." If the answer is still Black Magic, that's great and I will look at the many options available. But I don't want to invest in new pads, rotors, calipers, etc. only to find that these brakes only work good with heat in them. I know from owning BMWs and other performance vehicles that different brakes compounds work better at a particular temperature. That is what my concern is. What says the internet?
 
I havn't used black magic pads as the last time I was buying they didn't yet have jk pads, so I can't say anything but what we have both read on the internet. I have however used ebc green stuff and had excellent results. They now offer a new flavor that's specifically pointed at improving cold bite (I can't remember if it's green or orange) they sure arn't cheap but it's an option. However the best thing you can do is a larger rotor and hydro boost. Those will have a far larger impact on low speed usage I suspect than any pads on the market.


There must have been a time
when we could have said no.
 
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I think this is something that @mrblaine would be able to answer better than most of us, being as though he's the brake expert. Maybe he'll chime in.
 
I will tell you this much, I noticed a huge improvement on the trail when I upgraded to his BBK. Cold/hot, didn't matter. While waiting in line for someone ahead of me to find his line going up or down an obstacle, I noticed I could hold my pedal with a lot less effort while waiting, which gave me a lot less stress on my leg. I also had better control when I was attacking an obstacle that required me to feather the gas and brake at the same time.
 
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If you are prepared for the possibility that you might buy Black Magic brake parts after having an opportunity to have all of your questions answered by a true expert, my suggestion would be to call Mr. Blaine and explain your concern. (But don't call if you have no intention of ever being a customer no matter what you might learn - like the guy on another TJ forum who just this week nearly ignited a flame war over BMB. That's not fair to someone trying to run a small business.)

My impression from my brief conversations with Mr. Blaine is that he is a stand up guy who will tell you what works, what doesn't, why and why not, regardless of whose product it is.
 
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Let me apologize, my statements were not meant to in any way say that BMB are anything other than fantastic. I just wanted people to understand what I was looking for and not just give me an answer of BMB and nothing else. If they will improve the braking in the conditions I am using them in, than by all means I will stand up, hand him my money and gladly support him any chance I get. So I apologize to anyone that took my comment the wrong way, and I welcome all input, be it BMB or any other brand. All I am looking for is input to push me in the direction of what I should research. Sounds like a call to Mr. Blaine is in order for starters. Thank you for your help, and keep the ideas coming.