Willys Wagon / TJ frame swap

WillyWag57

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Overlanding suspension question:

I've got a 57 Wagon that I'm dropping onto a stretched 97 TJ frame. I'm keeping the TJ front axle, but swapping to an 8.8 rear with Artec truss and triangulated 4-link, 4-wheel power disk brakes. Gears are 3.73 at the moment, with air locker in the plans. My question is what to do up front, i.e. steering and suspension.

The intention for the Wagon is to do some overlanding with my family through Moab/Colorado/etc, but still be able to safely and reliably drive to/from Texas on the highways pulling an off-road camper. I've built up the 6.0 LQ4 ls engine with a 4l60e trans and Dana 20 t-case. The wagon is currently on 33s and I'd like to keep it that way and maintain as much of a stock height as possible. The reason for stock height is to maintain a stock appearance. I'm thinking Curry Enterprise steering (because a buddy has one to give me), chromoly axle shafts for the Dana 30, and I've been told to go ahead and 4-link the front. The frame and body are separated right now waiting on parts so this is the perfect opportunity to do it all and do it right.

This is not a rock crawler project. I just want it to have the ability to do as much a possible while looking stock. A sleeper, if you will. Every kit and post I've read talks about lift kits. I'm thinking on the terms of a TJ, Willys Wagon aside, since that's my platform.

Can I 4-link front and rear without lifting? What challenges will I face? Is it even worth 4-linking the front? What other options are out there?

I come from a hot-rodder background, but doing my research daily to understand 4x4 more each day. Your help is appreciated!

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I know a guy that wants to do something similar to you, wanting to give the Willys wagon that stock look with a more modern and dependable undercarriage. He is putting his on a Chevy Blazer.
 
I have zero advice to offer, but it sounds like a really cool build! I'd love to see some pics if you have any you can post. :)
 
Technically, the front axle is already a 4 link...5 if you count the track bar. Honestly, for the use you've described, I'd get some savvy control arms, the Currie steering, and call it good. It will be bulletproof for your intended use.
 
I've seen a Chevy Blazer swap, but it does not look clean. That bulky frame just looks out of place to me, that's why I went with the TJ swap. Surely there are benefits and challenges to either, but it's the road I took.

Ranger_b0b, what is a savvy control arm in your book?
 
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Here she is!
 
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Have you had a chance to take any measurements to see if a TJ frame would even work? What obstacles will you have to overcome to fit the coil spring towers to ditch the leafs?
 
Have you had a chance to take any measurements to see if a TJ frame would even work? What obstacles will you have to overcome to fit the coil spring towers to ditch the leafs?
I may have to cut my fenderwells back a bit, but it looks to have ample space. This swap has been done a couple of times in the past. I'm just going my own direction with it.

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Now that is something I can get into....love to follow the progress on that project...will you leave the patina and just clear coat over it or panel-beat and repaint.(I'd leave the patina just looks cool..old on top and newer underneath)
 
Now that is something I can get into....love to follow the progress on that project...will you leave the patina and just clear coat over it or panel-beat and repaint.(I'd leave the patina just looks cool..old on top and newer underneath)
I'm going to keep the patina, at least for now. You just can't reproduce that wear. It's like an old pair of your favorite Levi's. I can't stand those who buy jeans that are already ripped and worn, same as painting faux-patina. It's going to be so cool to have it look old and worn from a distance, and then at close-up realize there's a fuel-injected LS engine with 4-links, a/c, power steering, power disc brakes, and other modern amenities all tucked just a bit out of sight. I'm so pumped!

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I'm going to keep the patina, at least for now. You just can't reproduce that wear. It's like an old pair of your favorite Levi's. I can't stand those who buy jeans that are already ripped and worn, same as painting faux-patina. It's going to be so cool to have it look old and worn from a distance, and then at close-up realize there's a fuel-injected LS engine with 4-links, a/c, power steering, power disc brakes, and other modern amenities all tucked just a bit out of sight. I'm so pumped!

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Don't blame you...best of both worlds...love the Resto-mod look.
 
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Not quite exactly the same , but you might get a few ideas here:
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I love your project! It makes me a little nostalgic as I learned to drive in a Willys wagon on my Uncle's farm when I was 12.. We definately need some pictures of this project please.

James