I need a radiator and so will you

My existing radiator is of unknown heritage, installed by PO, probably not about 2 years ago. Seems to be leaking now.
Argh

I guess by your original post, it seemed you were in need of one...
 
I’ll leave that for someone with an automatic.
Now help me find one for a manual! 🤪

Have you called around to your local Dodge dealerships to see if they have any old, dusty boxes on the shelf? I've found a few unobtainable parts this way.
 
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This is extremely worrying. I guess I'll go and buy one now. :mad: And hope to god that a decent replacement is made in a few years but that is probably too much to ask.

I just ordered this for my 2005 6 speed.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1341614303...d=link&campid=5337789113&toolid=20001&mkevt=1

What is the situation with our gas tanks (not skids), are they also on the list of unobtainium? I'm assuming a gas tank is easier to fabricate compared to the radiator based on peoples builds?
 
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I replaced mine with an auto version. Was at a warehouse 2 miles from me.
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Which leads me back to my point, suitable replacement options are needed.
On a side note, I’ve considered the idea to start manufacturing some parts. If anyone is interested in a joined venture, feel free to reach out to me.

Start a thread on this.

I'd like to see some numbers on the subject.

How hard would it be to make every switch and hardware item for a TJ? Could that be a viable business?

Stay away for the saturated markets and focus on the unserved ones. I think people would pay good money to keep the TJ's road and trail worthy.
 
Start a thread on this.

I'd like to see some numbers on the subject.

How hard would it be to make every switch and hardware item for a TJ? Could that be a viable business?

Stay away for the saturated markets and focus on the unserved ones. I think people would pay good money to keep the TJ's road and trail worthy.

this is a VERY good way to go broke in a hurry.
 
This is extremely worrying.

Start a thread on this.

I'd like to see some numbers on the subject.

How hard would it be to make every switch and hardware item for a TJ? Could that be a viable business?

Stay away for the saturated markets and focus on the unserved ones. I think people would pay good money to keep the TJ's road and trail worthy.

I wouldn't get too worked up about this. Coming from the classic car world, I've seen how parts come and go. With a vehicle as popular as a Jeep (TJ), reproduction/restoration stuff is right around the corner. I'd guess in 5-10 years, there will a restoration type market for these Jeeps. They likely just have to reach a certain age before MoPar legal lets the aftermarket players start repopin'.
 
What do you mean?

I'd guess he's referring to your statement below.
How hard would it be to make every switch and hardware item for a TJ? Could that be a viable business?

Not really feasible in any manner. That would essentially be asking MoPar to start producing TJs again, or asking for a new vehicle company to magically start reproducing TJs. Not going to happen. Multiple different companies who specialize in different sub-fields (body, electrical, mechanical, etc.) adding TJ parts to their catalogs is very likely.
 
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Not really feasible in any manner. That would essentially be asking MoPar to start producing TJs again, or asking for a new vehicle company to magically start reproducing TJs. Not going to happen. Multiple different companies who specialize in different sub-fields (body, electrical, mechanical, etc.) adding TJ parts to their catalogs is very likely.

I see. I guess that makes sense.

Considering our TJ's have sensors that throw codes, are we seeing the beginning of the end? How will TJs keep running, or at least passing inspections and being road worthy?
 
What do you mean?

I mean Chrysler made 952,000'ish Jeep wranglers over its 10 year production run. That is a lot of parts to amortize tooling over. In order to reproduce all those many parts, you'd have to spend millions on tooling to even come close, and then you don't have the testing abilities of an OEM to prove your reverse engineering is valid. You would never recoup your costs. People piss and moan about 350 bucks for a radiator and that is the price after selling literally a million of them. Do you think you can make one that people will buy at a price they will pay?


The aftermarket companies, who specialize in producing reproductions can't get it right. Cars are so amazingly complex and highly engineered. I'm constantly in awe of how reliable and long lasting they actually are.
 
I mean Chrysler made 952,000'ish Jeep wranglers over its 10 year production run. That is a lot of parts to amortize tooling over. In order to reproduce all those many parts, you'd have to spend millions on tooling to even come close, and then you don't have the testing abilities of an OEM to prove your reverse engineering is valid. You would never recoup your costs. People piss and moan about 350 bucks for a radiator and that is the price after selling literally a million of them. Do you think you can make one that people will buy at a price they will pay?


The aftermarket companies, who specialize in producing reproductions can't get it right. Cars are so amazingly complex and highly engineered. I'm constantly in awe of how reliable and long lasting they actually are.

Do sensors, computers, circuitry, etc. mean the end of keeping cars alive? Is the day of functioning antique cars coming to an end?

When cars got computers
 
Do sensors, computers, circuitry, etc. mean the end of keeping cars alive? Is the day of functioning antique cars coming to an end?

When cars got computers

electronics in cars are still relatively new. As companies gain experience, things should get better. One thing that will help is a willingness to pay more to keep cars on the road, which we're probably going to need to do anyway, if the current trends in EV are pushed further.
 
Considering our TJ's have sensors that throw codes, are we seeing the beginning of the end? How will TJs keep running, or at least passing inspections and being road worthy?

The same way any other old vehicle has been kept going. I can still source parts for a Studebaker, a company that folded in 1964.
 
Do sensors, computers, circuitry, etc. mean the end of keeping cars alive? Is the day of functioning antique cars coming to an end?

When cars got computers

I'd generally say no, except for these later model electronic gizmo vehicles, which will likely be cost prohibitive to repair as their electronics crap out with time. Something as mechanical as a TJ will be relatively easy to keep going.
 
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