Replacing original gauge cluster with after market guages

GenRight sells a dash also... But it ain't cheap.

https://genright.com/shop-by-vehicle/jeep-tj-97-06/jeep-tj-lj-laser-cut-aluminum-dash/
It's your rig so you can do how you want but if I can ask why? Is it that you don't like the plastic dash or some other reason?
Here's a members dash
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https://wranglertjforum.com/threads/bessy-the-rock-rod-a-crawler-built-in-stages.58031/



Yes the Marshall gauges are a lot more budget friendly. And good quality from everything I've heard & read.

I saw the gen right ones and I am not a fan as they are not low profile the are still the same height as the original dash. I want to have the look of a cj dash.

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The reason for removing the old dash is that I don't need that air bag and I want space, I don't care for the look of the gauge cluster and would like to just have a simply dash that isn't made of plastic. I know I can get a switch panel and make it fit but I just want something that is simply and clean and not big a bulky. When I tore down the jeep to the frame and completely removed everything off the body, I just found that I hated the dash, and so I have been looking either to make or buy depending on price.
 
I also removed my passenger airbag and got all the switches I needed removing the ashtray.

If I was doing a completely different dash I'd integrate a tablet in and add gauges for fuel pressure and oil temperature.

With the way 3d printing is going these days I'd imagine you could design and have an entire dash printed...or section it into smaller pieces that could be snapped or tabbed and glued.

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3d printing sounds like a good idea, but I am trying to stay away from plastic, I could get one laser cut but I don't know what the cost would be. for the tablet with making a flat dash I would be able to mount one, but other than maps I don't know what I would need one for that my phone couldn't do.
 
I saw the gen right ones and I am not a fan as they are not low profile the are still the same height as the original dash. I want to have the look of a cj dash.

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The reason for removing the old dash is that I don't need that air bag and I want space, I don't care for the look of the gauge cluster and would like to just have a simply dash that isn't made of plastic. I know I can get a switch panel and make it fit but I just want something that is simply and clean and not big a bulky. When I tore down the jeep to the frame and completely removed everything off the body, I just found that I hated the dash, and so I have been looking either to make or buy depending on price.

Thanks for the answer. I appreciate it. Doing a flat dash isn't something you see often on a TJ. It took me a long time to even like the look of the TJ dash when it first came out. So yes I can understand. I've grown to like the look of the dash.
Mine isn't stock but it's also no where near what you're shooting for.

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I've got the GenRight center console

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Thanks for the answer. I appreciate it. Doing a flat dash isn't something you see often on a TJ. It took me a long time to even like the look of the TJ dash when it first came out. So yes I can understand. I've grown to like the look of the dash.
Mine isn't stock but it's also no where near what you're shooting for.

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I've got the GenRight center console

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nice I like the setup, I may make a build thread for when I do the gauges and dash I am not sure yet.
 
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Thanks for the answer. I appreciate it. Doing a flat dash isn't something you see often on a TJ. It took me a long time to even like the look of the TJ dash when it first came out. So yes I can understand. I've grown to like the look of the dash.
Mine isn't stock but it's also no where near what you're shooting for.

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I've got the GenRight center console

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Why do you have a fish finder on your dash, Rick?

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Why do you have a fish finder on your dash, Rick?

🙂

For when I go fishing... A really nice forum member was nice enough to give it to me when he updated his to something newer.

I used to get asked this all the time. I'd always say "The sonar lets me see the rocks under the Jeep..."

You would not believe how many folks believed that. :)
 
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I used to get asked this all the time. I'd always say "The sonar lets me see the rocks under the Jeep..."

You would not believe how many folks believed that. :)

I can believe it... Should be interesting if I make the Cars & Coffee next month...
 
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I just got done removing the old dash, I removed everything that was not needed for the jeep to drive except for the Heater, as I need it for defrost. I am going to be making a cardboard cut out this week to figure out how much material I will need for cost. and looking at it I should be able to make a all flat dash without anything pushed out. I will send more pictures with the cutout to better visualize what I am looking to achieve.

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After alot of wiring and late nights due to having to work a lot these past few weeks I have finished my flat CJ style dash.

Here is the fine product, although I still need to run my vent lines for defrost and tie up some wires but other than that this is how it turned out.
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I ended up making a wooden template of the dash and then used fiberglass to make the dash.
 
After alot of wiring and late nights due to having to work a lot these past few weeks I have finished my flat CJ style dash.

Here is the fine product, although I still need to run my vent lines for defrost and tie up some wires but other than that this is how it turned out.
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I ended up making a wooden template of the dash and then used fiberglass to make the dash.

When you get the time can you post up the wiring you did if you wrote it down? Hopefully you did.
 
After alot of wiring and late nights due to having to work a lot these past few weeks I have finished my flat CJ style dash.

Here is the fine product, although I still need to run my vent lines for defrost and tie up some wires but other than that this is how it turned out.
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I ended up making a wooden template of the dash and then used fiberglass to make the dash.

Is that a a speedo and a combo gauge with 4 needles? Do you not want a tach
 
I am not really sure If I should do a build thread or just leave what I did and how I did it in here, but anyways below I will have the wiring, and how I made the dash, what gauges I used and what gauges are compatible with the 1998 Jeep TJ and I would assume other year TJ to a extent.

Part List:
1/4inch plywood
Stuff to make your Fiberglass
Gauges: https://www.autometer.com/3-3-8-quad-gauge-speedometer-old-tyme-black.html
20 gauge wire for speedo sender
18 gauge wire for the rest
fuse for the power wires for the 2 gauges
switches
Phone Mount: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCRZ7TS8?tag=wranglerorg-20

Total Cost: about 800$ didn't have to pay for fiber glass because my dad had left over from a earlier project.

Dash:
I started by removing everything, airbag, plastic dash it self, metal frame the dash mounted to, and so on. Then I took a piece of 1/4 inch plywood and started making the flat piece that would go from one end of the jeep to the other, after that it was a matter of making the piece to fit on top so it would meet with the windshield. If anyone wants the measurements and or diagram for the dash just let me know and I can make a template so other people can use it. I do plan to refine it and or make it better so it is a bit easier to use and fit gauges in.

After I made the plywood template I prepped the plywood so I could use it to make a fiberglass version of it. Then after that it was just a matter of cutting whole for your gauges and any switches you would like to mount. By using fiberglass it made drilling very easy.

light Wiring:
First I removed this switch
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While doing that I figured out what wires turn my lows and highs on along with my running lights.
Here are the colors:
Running Lights colors below

When connecting the wires I took the green/white wiring and red/white wiring and put them on one end of a switch then I took the green wire in the back and put it on the other end. This gave me my high and low beams.
Next I took the whiteish/black wire and yellow/black wire and put one on one end of a switch and one on the other. This gave me my Running lights.

So white/black to yellow/Black = running
Green/white and red/white to green = low High.
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Gauge wire:
Gauges used https://www.autometer.com/3-3-8-quad-gauge-speedometer-old-tyme-black.html
My gauges included a water sender, fuel sender, oil sender, and speedo sender.
A couple things to note for my jeep at least the fuel sender is a 220-20ohm and these gauges are rated for 240-33, so I haven't done it yet but I will be installing the new fuel sending unit next to my fuel pump in the next couple of days.

Also as stated before in this thread the jeep tj 98 speedo sender is a hall effect sensor that outputs about 65,000 pulses per mile I think, going off of what I could find online. So this means that any speedo gauge that has a range including 65,000 so for example my speedo gauge includes 500 to 400,000 pulses a mile.

With this said I took a 20 gauge wire and spliced it into the existing speedo sender located at the rear of the transfer case shown in the picture below.
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The wire color you are gonna wanna tap into should be white with I think a stripe but I don't remember but I know for sure it is white.

This is the water sender I used
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This is the oil sender I used
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Things I still need to do, wire my fan for heating, make a vent for defrost, but I am waiting to go back to college so I can 3d print some vent lines for free so I don't have to go through a ton of trouble. Once I get it working and so forth I can post the files here for anyone that wants to use them, I can make a 3d model of the dash as well if anyone is interested just let me know.
 
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