what force are you thinking about?Any response from JCR? I’m wondering what kind of specs those clips would need to hold the slider on the backplate under force.
You know, "The Force." Midichlorians and all that!what force are you thinking about?
You know, "The Force." Midichlorians and all that!
I guess I'm wondering if I hit the slider on the outer edge from underneath, an upward force on the angled portion, what it might do to the four clips with stainless 5/16' bolts. Is it going to push the slider up and toward the tub? Maybe I'm over-thinking it.
This post is priceless. I was confused. I thought you were saying the rivnuts in place of the clips didn't work. I may have been confused on what you were originally trying to do with the rivnuts, though I do remember you saying you were going to use them under the tub since you didn't like the idea of bolts sticking up into the footwells, so maybe I was following, but I think I thought the problem with the rivnuts was where the slider connected to the backing plate. I think I follow now and see where you had trouble; under the tub installing rivnuts.You were replying while I was drawing this.
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They should stay pretty well captured. The slider won't be able to move in, as its reinforced against the tub and bracket under the seat. It can't move up, because the torque box prevents that movement (unless the torque box collapses). The down force is pretty minimal...just you stepping on it or you have bigger problems (think rollover) . I think the clips would be fine, but I don't like them. That is why I installed the rivnuts. I'm just now thinking I told you the rivnut idea didn't work...and maybe you're confused. Let me try to explain...
The rivnuts on the backing plates...The ones that hold the slider where your foot would go, those worked great. The rivnuts I planned on installing into the torque boxes...Not so well...not that the concept is bad, but its VERY difficult to install 3/8" Rivnuts square, working on your back, without the proper tools. That is what I struggled with. Tried to use my impact, but over compressed them...used a ratchet and didn't compress them enough. I have one spinning on me now.
Also, When I installed the backing plate, I pushed it too high on the tub by about an 1/8". I'll need to slot my tub holes to get it lined up.
This post is priceless. I was confused. I thought you were saying the rivnuts in place of the clips didn't work. I may have been confused on what you were originally trying to do with the rivnuts, though I do remember you saying you were going to use them under the tub since you didn't like the idea of bolts sticking up into the footwells, so maybe I was following, but I think I thought the problem with the rivnuts was where the slider connected to the backing plate. I think I follow now and see where you had trouble; under the tub installing rivnuts.
So, just for clarity, you suggest the following
1) use the supplied hardware to mount under the tub,
2) use rivnuts for the four locations the slider mounts to the backing plate
3) use bolts for the side of the backplate to the tub
Do I understand your process? Thanks for the drawing. I can really see how this would protect the tub.
Yeah I drilled it out to 17/32. It depends on the rivnut. The ones that are included with the sliders are 5/16 and they use a 17/32 drill too. so...measure the rivnuts you get.Did you have to drill out the slider mount on the backplate since you went with 3/8” rivnuts? I was just going to use 5/16”, so I can use the supplied hardware. I think the pilot hole is 1/2” for a 5/16.
Coming along very nice; rust at bay, sliders and now winch. Looking great!Finally got the ol' girl a winch! Yeah, its not a Warn...is a Gen 2 Smittybilt X2O. Seems pretty nice so far. Synthetic Rope, Runs pretty fast, seems a lot smoother operating than the other Chinese Winches my Buddies run. Fit and Finish are pretty good too. The wires are nice and flexible (which means they used a High strand count wire ->higher quality), Overall, I'm Happy with my purchase
Only had one installation issue...My discount Chinese Bumper did not have a big enough opening for the fairlead.
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Since its a synthetic rope, I didn't want that edge there. I was afraid of abrasion. Out comes my trusty die grinder with a carbide burr and opened the hole up. Had to do both sides. Other than that, it was smooth sailing.
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My yard isn't big enough to unspool the whole rope and pull it in under a load to stretch it, so I need to do that still. I also want to get some loom for the wires to the battery.
Ssshhhhhh...Don't wake up the rust monster...Coming along very nice; rust at bay, sliders and now winch. Looking great!
P.s. when I first got my bumper like that I ran it with the hook and one D-ring. It rubbed under the top edge of the bumper. Just letting you know. I’m sure the best solution is a thimble.Finally got the ol' girl a winch! Yeah, its not a Warn...is a Gen 2 Smittybilt X2O. Seems pretty nice so far. Synthetic Rope, Runs pretty fast, seems a lot smoother operating than the other Chinese Winches my Buddies run. Fit and Finish are pretty good too. The wires are nice and flexible (which means they used a High strand count wire ->higher quality), Overall, I'm Happy with my purchase
Only had one installation issue...My discount Chinese Bumper did not have a big enough opening for the fairlead.
View attachment 46037
Since its a synthetic rope, I didn't want that edge there. I was afraid of abrasion. Out comes my trusty die grinder with a carbide burr and opened the hole up. Had to do both sides. Other than that, it was smooth sailing.
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My yard isn't big enough to unspool the whole rope and pull it in under a load to stretch it, so I need to do that still. I also want to get some loom for the wires to the battery.
Yeah, I would like a thimble, but gonna wait a bit. I could probably just run the hook to the fairlead, the way its assembled, the hook isn't going to pull through.P.s. when I first got my bumper like that I ran it with the hook and one D-ring. It rubbed under the top edge of the bumper. Just letting you know. I’m sure the best solution is a thimble.
That was my final configuration. I don’t like it against my aluminum fairlead, but it’s the best I could come up with. In TX we have to boast a front license plate, so I have a Tuffy that closes over the fairlead and hook. It swings up out of the way if AND when I need the winch (to pull someone else out, of course).Yeah, I would like a thimble, but gonna wait a bit. I could probably just run the hook to the fairlead, the way its assembled, the hook isn't going to pull through.
Finally got the ol' girl a winch! Yeah, its not a Warn...is a Gen 2 Smittybilt X2O. Seems pretty nice so far. Synthetic Rope, Runs pretty fast, seems a lot smoother operating than the other Chinese Winches my Buddies run. Fit and Finish are pretty good too. The wires are nice and flexible (which means they used a High strand count wire ->higher quality), Overall, I'm Happy with my purchase
Only had one installation issue...My discount Chinese Bumper did not have a big enough opening for the fairlead.
View attachment 46037
Since its a synthetic rope, I didn't want that edge there. I was afraid of abrasion. Out comes my trusty die grinder with a carbide burr and opened the hole up. Had to do both sides. Other than that, it was smooth sailing.
View attachment 46038
My yard isn't big enough to unspool the whole rope and pull it in under a load to stretch it, so I need to do that still. I also want to get some loom for the wires to the battery.
Silly man. Don't you know?Ssshhhhhh...Don't wake up the rust monster...