I don't want to be here anymore...
- Thread starter Zorba
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Luger. Own the original!
Glock copied the Luger's grip angle , and Springfield copied the 1911's grip angle .
One of my handgun instructors said most people don’t shoot HK’s well. The trigger is heavy. I got pretty proficient with it. They are beautiful guns. Simple mechanism and I like on/offs even though now I’m moving to Glocks.
The trigger guards are interesting. Designed for German police to not catch on clothing between the trigger tip and guard. It’s very close.
HK is my favorite now, XDM’s are great, 1911’s are fantastic but limited.
Glocks don’t play nice with me.
I’ve got one of those pocket Sig Sauer .380’s 1911 style with the tang. I like that gun too. Very nice for a pocket carry and never given me any trouble. I’d like to have a full size 1911.
HK’s are fantastic once you get used to them. It was the first handgun I ever had so I didn’t know any different or have any hang ups.
Don't ruin it for the rest of us that go there!
If it was all one or the other, it would be appropriate to have different limits. But disparate speed is just as dangerous as excessive speed, so if they're sharing the road, they should be going about the same speed. Maybe allow for 5mph per lane so those 5 lane monstrosities could have 80 in the left and 55 on the right...but I have little faith in the average American to figure that out, let alone follow it.
That said, the roads would be better if we shifted cargo away from long haul trucking in favor of rail and used trucks primarily to get from the train station to the destination. The amount of truck traffic is insane. At least some states have had the wisdom to keep them out of the left lane.
KennethS
TJ Addict
I realize I didn't word that speed limit thought very well. I was thinking about things such as curves that are marked with some random MPH to ensure large trucks can navigate them, and of course I take them well over that speed, just because it's fun to do in a sports car.
I've stayed out of this thread on purpose, but I have to step in and defend my current profession (civil engineer). Curves may be "marked with some random MPH," but they shouldn't be. The speeds, however, are definitely very low by passenger car standards. They have to be because, as you noted, they consider the slowest, least maneuverable vehicles - trucks.
In Texas, this is how we do it (WARNING: It's far from random, and quite technically involved):
https://www.txdot.gov/manuals/trf/s...154.html#selecting_speed_for_posting-CHDBECFJ
Although we civil engineers are allowed to use engineering judgment to set advisory speeds for curves, that's pretty old school these days. It's pretty easy to use the third option in that link (design method) for any road for which you can find a set of as-built plans because we have software or spreadsheets that make it pretty easy to do. However, with so many curves out there, only new roads and existing roads with either high accident numbers or high complaints get analyzed.
Personally, I think we overuse advisory speed signs in curves. I'm capable of determining a safe speed just by looking through the curve, as I was taught to do. Only blind curves concern me because there's no way to determine the safe speed if you can see through the curve.
Correct me if I'm wrong, aren't the safe speeds in curves supposed to be for big trucks and also wet weather? I thought that's what they taught us in Land Surveyor school in Florida.
You know the state like Texas that also tells you because it's flat per se, you don't need to know how to lay out a curve.
Then again its been over 40 years since I did any surveying.
Yes, as I said earlier, the advisory speeds consider trucks. However, wet weather is not considered. We assume that drivers know to slow down if it's wet, however bad that assumption may be (especially these days).
I'm not sure what you mean here. Roadway design is pretty well standardized across the USA. Each state has their own design standards, but nearly all follow what we call "The Green Book" - A Policy on Geometric Design of Highways and Streets, published by the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO). If you think Texas is flat, think again. It's a big state, and we have actual mountains. In fact, Texas is #14 on the list of states ranked by elevation change (and Alabama is #43, by the way):
Full Ranking of States by Elevation Change (ft):
- Alaska – 19,860 ft (Denali: 20,310 ft – Sea level)
- California – 14,776 ft (Mt. Whitney: 14,494 ft – Death Valley: -282 ft)
- Washington – 14,411 ft (Mt. Rainier: 14,411 ft – Sea level)
- Hawaii – 13,796 ft (Mauna Kea: 13,796 ft – Sea level)
- Nevada – 12,659 ft (Boundary Peak: 13,140 ft – Colorado River: 481 ft)
- Arizona – 12,565 ft (Humphreys Peak: 12,637 ft – Colorado River: 72 ft)
- Idaho – 11,949 ft (Borah Peak: 12,662 ft – Snake River: 713 ft)
- Utah – 11,354 ft (Kings Peak: 13,534 ft – Beaver Dam Wash: 2,180 ft)
- Oregon – 11,249 ft (Mt. Hood: 11,249 ft – Sea level)
- Colorado – 11,123 ft (Mt. Elbert: 14,440 ft – Arikaree River: 3,317 ft)
- Montana – 11,003 ft (Granite Peak: 12,807 ft – Kootenai River: 1,804 ft)
- New Mexico – 10,323 ft (Wheeler Peak: 13,167 ft – Red Bluff Reservoir: 2,844 ft)
- Wyoming – 10,708 ft (Gannett Peak: 13,809 ft – Belle Fourche River: 3,101 ft)
- Texas – 8,751 ft (Guadalupe Peak: 8,751 ft – Gulf of Mexico: 0 ft)
- South Dakota – 6,276 ft (Black Elk Peak: 7,244 ft – Big Stone Lake: 968 ft)
- New Hampshire – 6,288 ft (Mt. Washington: 6,288 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Virginia – 5,729 ft (Mt. Rogers: 5,729 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Tennessee – 6,465 ft (Clingmans Dome: 6,643 ft – Mississippi River: 178 ft)
- Pennsylvania – 3,213 ft (Mt. Davis: 3,213 ft – Delaware River: 0 ft)
- North Carolina – 6,684 ft (Mt. Mitchell: 6,684 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Maine – 5,268 ft (Mt. Katahdin: 5,268 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- New York – 5,344 ft (Mt. Marcy: 5,344 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Vermont – 4,295 ft (Mt. Mansfield: 4,395 ft – Lake Champlain: ~100 ft)
- West Virginia – 4,623 ft (Spruce Knob: 4,863 ft – Potomac River: 240 ft)
- Kentucky – 3,888 ft (Black Mountain: 4,145 ft – Mississippi River: 257 ft)
- Oklahoma – 4,686 ft (Black Mesa: 4,975 ft – Little River: 289 ft)
- Michigan – 1,408 ft (Mt. Arvon: 1,979 ft – Lake Erie: 571 ft)
- Wisconsin – 1,372 ft (Timms Hill: 1,951 ft – Lake Michigan: 579 ft)
- Minnesota – 1,699 ft (Eagle Mountain: 2,301 ft – Lake Superior: 602 ft)
- Nebraska – 4,589 ft (Panorama Point: 5,429 ft – Missouri River: 840 ft)
- Iowa – 1,191 ft (Hawkeye Point: 1,671 ft – Mississippi River: 480 ft)
- Missouri – 1,542 ft (Taum Sauk Mountain: 1,772 ft – St. Francis River: 230 ft)
- Ohio – 1,094 ft (Campbell Hill: 1,549 ft – Ohio River: 455 ft)
- Kansas – 3,362 ft (Mt. Sunflower: 4,039 ft – Verdigris River: 679 ft)
- North Dakota – 2,757 ft (White Butte: 3,508 ft – Red River: 751 ft)
- Georgia – 4,784 ft (Brasstown Bald: 4,784 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Maryland – 3,360 ft (Hoye-Crest: 3,360 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- South Carolina – 3,554 ft (Sassafras Mountain: 3,554 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Massachusetts – 3,491 ft (Mt. Greylock: 3,491 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Connecticut – 2,379 ft (Mt. Frissell: 2,379 ft – Long Island Sound: 0 ft)
- New Jersey – 1,803 ft (High Point: 1,803 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Arkansas – 2,753 ft (Magazine Mountain: 2,753 ft – Ouachita River: 55 ft)
- Alabama – 2,405 ft (Cheaha Mountain: 2,405 ft – Gulf of Mexico: 0 ft)
- Mississippi – 806 ft (Woodall Mountain: 806 ft – Gulf of Mexico: 0 ft)
- Louisiana – 535 ft (Driskill Mountain: 535 ft – New Orleans: -8 ft)
- Illinois – 1,235 ft (Charles Mound: 1,235 ft – Mississippi River: 279 ft)
- Indiana – 1,257 ft (Hoosier Hill: 1,257 ft – Ohio River: 320 ft)
- Rhode Island – 811 ft (Jerimoth Hill: 811 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Delaware – 447 ft (Ebright Road: 447 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
- Florida – 345 ft (Britton Hill: 345 ft – Atlantic Ocean: 0 ft)
clearly Zorba should move to Alaska in order to gain elevation and get away from people.
When they were teaching triangulating curves, in Florida they said that the on and off ramps would be straight, no curvature, the first off ramp we survived was circular.
The teacher had taught surveying classes in Texas and was talking about on and off ramps.
Had nothing to do with elevation.
In Texas if you drive a truck, anything is an on/off ramp.
You mean the "bootleg" off-ramps everywhere? Yeah, I found that odd about Texas.
KennethS
TJ Addict
Apologies for saying “random MPH” but I was typing fast and didn’t think of another word to use. I realize those MPH areas are not random.
Do they still Texas pass?
When I was a kid people would pull over on the shoulder and let people pass them.
Yes, but that's not just a Texas thing. I've experienced that in most rural areas with paved shoulders, regardless of state.
Never seen it anywhere but Texas and Alaska but it’s required in Alaska someplaces if you have 5 cars lined up behind you.