Are these shitty control arms?

[wrangler4fun]

i hear so many good things about the johny joints and how long the last. i also like the idea of double adjustable control arms and a quality joint i can rebuild..

so even for the OP, why wouldn't something like a savvy arm be a good suggeston?? even if he wont wheel hard it would seem there are more benefit to the arms.

 

[mrblaine]

i hear so many good things about the johny joints and how long the last. i also like the idea of double adjustable control arms and a quality joint i can rebuild..

so even for the OP, why wouldn't something like a savvy arm be a good suggeston?? even if he wont wheel hard it would seem there are more benefit to the arms.

More benefit is not a bad thing. It only becomes irrelevant when there is an expectation he will exceed the abilities of the cheaper arms in question. Based on his declaration of his particular needs and usage, it is doubtful that he ever will. They solve the two most common reasons for arm selection, rebuildable and adjustable at a price point equivalent to the joints in just two Currie or Savvy lower arms.

 

[BlackJeep]

More benefit is not a bad thing. It only becomes irrelevant when there is an expectation he will exceed the abilities of the cheaper arms in question. Based on his declaration of his particular needs and usage, it is doubtful that he ever will. They solve the two most common reasons for arm selection, rebuildable and adjustable at a price point equivalent to the joints in just two Currie or Savvy lower arms.

Thank you! I've been following this thread since yesterday thinking: "I'd love a clear answer to the original question." I'm preparing for a suspension swap and double axle swap in the next couple of weeks. I don't wheel much (haven't in years), but would like the option if the mood strikes me. In the meantime, I want a safe, reliable, fun, and relatively comfortable weekend vehicle. I won't upgrade control arms now, but if after swapping the lift and axles, tuning everything, alignment, etc. I am getting vibes, I'll consider it. At that point I'd love to do it on a budget considering the money I've just dropped. So, the answer seems to be for a mostly street Jeep that might occasionally find itself in mild to moderate offroad situations, those arms should work fine, allow re-alignment of pinion angles, and get the Jeep through to the next phase of major upgrades (if ever). Sound about right?

 

[astjp2]

The only problem is you are comparing apples to pomegranates while overlooking the very basic fact that there are very few known examples of worn out JJs. You also have no experience with JJ's. In fact you are doing the exact thing the name caller is doing and using one misapplied fact to determine the validity of another product and it has no bearing on the actual appropriate usage or the product nor can you assign those particular bad qualities to the actual product.

You are doing about the equivalent of seeing someone have a flat tire on a car and then going out and trying to find solid rubber tires for an auto because it is too hard to keep that pesky air from leaking out of conventional automotive tires.

Thanks for your input Blaine.

 

[mrblaine]

Thank you! I've been following this thread since yesterday thinking: "I'd love a clear answer to the original question." I'm preparing for a suspension swap and double axle swap in the next couple of weeks. I don't wheel much (haven't in years), but would like the option if the mood strikes me. In the meantime, I want a safe, reliable, fun, and relatively comfortable weekend vehicle. I won't upgrade control arms now, but if after swapping the lift and axles, tuning everything, alignment, etc. I am getting vibes, I'll consider it. At that point I'd love to do it on a budget considering the money I've just dropped. So, the answer seems to be for a mostly street Jeep that might occasionally find itself in mild to moderate offroad situations, those arms should work fine, allow re-alignment of pinion angles, and get the Jeep through to the next phase of major upgrades (if ever). Sound about right?

Sounds about right so far. The big challenge with getting folks to set a rig up right is having them drop the cash on a set of adjustable arms, SYE, and a new rear driveshaft all at the same time and that is tough on a budget. If you were to spend the cash on a quality SYE and driveshaft, the pittance for those arms may be enough to make that difference and certainly low enough to be considered rent on some arms while you get the rest of it dialed in. Maybe you run across a deal on a set of Currie or Savvy arms at some point, meanwhile you are still able to use the rig and have the luxury of time to wait on the deal.

I consider them to be the equivalent of the Titan wheel spacers I use. I know it is possible to have an issue with them. I buy spares, I know they are cheap, and I know that I'm getting what I pay for. So far, the problems I've encountered haven't really constituted failure so until then, I'll keep using them. At 77 bucks for 4 shipped, there is nothing that can go wrong, right?

 

[Rob5589]

Thank you! I've been following this thread since yesterday thinking: "I'd love a clear answer to the original question." I'm preparing for a suspension swap and double axle swap in the next couple of weeks. I don't wheel much (haven't in years), but would like the option if the mood strikes me. In the meantime, I want a safe, reliable, fun, and relatively comfortable weekend vehicle. I won't upgrade control arms now, but if after swapping the lift and axles, tuning everything, alignment, etc. I am getting vibes, I'll consider it. At that point I'd love to do it on a budget considering the money I've just dropped. So, the answer seems to be for a mostly street Jeep that might occasionally find itself in mild to moderate offroad situations, those arms should work fine, allow re-alignment of pinion angles, and get the Jeep through to the next phase of major upgrades (if ever). Sound about right?

Smart. Unless you need to move pinion angles, the factory arms are perfectly acceptable for many applications.