The Truetrac is a great device. Not a locker of course but, it works very well. The TT and the Torsen work in the same basic way.
Gears in 10 days: Locker or LSD?
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The Truetrac is a great device. Not a locker of course but, it works very well. The TT and the Torsen work in the same basic way.
I originally wanted the Truetrac but was told to consider my tracklok and then to consider a more serious upgrade since I'm doing gears. The video shows the Torsen to be able to stay in the vehicle for the life without service packs to worry about.
My new to me Dana 44 came with a newly rebuilt tracloc. I decided not to use it and go w Trutrac. Between a tracloc and a selectable locker, I found it to be a good compromise.
Sunder
TJ Enthusiast
I love my front/rear TrueTrac's.
However, factors such as it being my daily driver, that I drive in snow for at least half the year, the difficulty level I offroad on (not high - it's my only vehicle), and of course, finances helped make my decision. Less chance of breaking an axle too.
While a selectable locker is typically the most desired - winter conditions have been know to...complicate...things like air lockers (such as compressor not working, condensation freezing in airline, etc). It's not uncommon to hear someone complaining about their lockers not engaging on a snow trail. When I need it to work, I NEED it to work. The TrueTracs work. Period. Don't even need to replace worn out clutch pads either.
(The downside is their performance level vs true lockers. From where I've gone - this has not been an issue yet. In fact, I've gone places a few Rubicons got stuck. That's not a "brag/challenge/etc", just saying that while they technically won't perform as well as a true locker on most situations, it's performed well enough that it did not matter).
Of course, if you find yourself often offroading with your tires in the air, then a TrueTrac is not what you'll be wanting.
However, while you mention you see snow, I'm not so sure how much/often you'll see it where you're located. If I lived in California, I'd keep my eyes on the Detroit locker or a selectable. At least in the rear. (I didn't pick the Detroit locker for mine solely because of the amount of snow/ice daily driving I do, but I did heavily consider it).
However, factors such as it being my daily driver, that I drive in snow for at least half the year, the difficulty level I offroad on (not high - it's my only vehicle), and of course, finances helped make my decision. Less chance of breaking an axle too.
While a selectable locker is typically the most desired - winter conditions have been know to...complicate...things like air lockers (such as compressor not working, condensation freezing in airline, etc). It's not uncommon to hear someone complaining about their lockers not engaging on a snow trail. When I need it to work, I NEED it to work. The TrueTracs work. Period. Don't even need to replace worn out clutch pads either.
(The downside is their performance level vs true lockers. From where I've gone - this has not been an issue yet. In fact, I've gone places a few Rubicons got stuck. That's not a "brag/challenge/etc", just saying that while they technically won't perform as well as a true locker on most situations, it's performed well enough that it did not matter).
Of course, if you find yourself often offroading with your tires in the air, then a TrueTrac is not what you'll be wanting.
However, while you mention you see snow, I'm not so sure how much/often you'll see it where you're located. If I lived in California, I'd keep my eyes on the Detroit locker or a selectable. At least in the rear. (I didn't pick the Detroit locker for mine solely because of the amount of snow/ice daily driving I do, but I did heavily consider it).
Thank you, we barely drive in the snow in my jeep but if I do with a Detroit locker I’m gonna have a bunch of cars behind me honking because I’ll be snailing along lol
That’s what I was weighing out too. But the Detroit Locker is looking more and more desirable.
If you drive on icy snowy roads a lot. An LSD like Truetrac is preferred. Full lockers, (detroit, lunchbox, etc), involve a learning curve in order to drive safely and to keep your jeep from falling off the mountain side.
For snow, selectable lockers are good for maximum traction, such as in a stuck situation.
But, selectables are worthless for driving down a curvy icy highway on a mountain. If you lock them, you invite more problems than if you were running open diffs.
Decide what you need most.
Snowy traction while driving on the road.
Or, able to crawl the rough trails, locked up.
There are two issues here. Because on the hiway... loose and slippery surface, high speed driving are way way different than driving over boulders and nasty trails that a full or selectable locker will be the premuim.
For snow, selectable lockers are good for maximum traction, such as in a stuck situation.
But, selectables are worthless for driving down a curvy icy highway on a mountain. If you lock them, you invite more problems than if you were running open diffs.
Decide what you need most.
Snowy traction while driving on the road.
Or, able to crawl the rough trails, locked up.
There are two issues here. Because on the hiway... loose and slippery surface, high speed driving are way way different than driving over boulders and nasty trails that a full or selectable locker will be the premuim.
Very true, thank you for the input! I’ve got a day to decide as my gear guy needs a week to order parts
Alex0413
TJ Enthusiast
Another vote for the Detroit locker! I've had mine in for a couple of months, and I don't even notice it's there. It doesn't clunk, bang, or do anything odd that you hear about. Just drive it like you're supposed to (neutral throttle in corners) and you'll never notice it's there until you're on the trails.
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A lot of love for Detroit’s here but I’ve use air lockers for a long time and arbs been around and has a good following, when my rubicon lockers let go I’ll get the arb, it’s something I kind of know will be spendy, but they are nice and someone else can drive it without me worrying about it.
Still asking that same question you did on two other forums in four similar threads with solid answers and advice in all of them? As I said several times earlier, not even my stock Dana 35 axle shafts had any problems with 33's with a Truetrac while on very tough trails. Your daughter isn't going to be pushing them nearly as hard as my stock shafts were. No issues at all with even stronger 1541H shafts.
She should be fine, especially with 1541H shafts. Of course anything can and will break with enough stupid pedal. I only run 31's and nothing crazy tough and have had no issues on stock shafts. Hardest trail I have run with it is a short portion of the Rubicon.
I gave you lots of solid advice at first. Lots. Conversational helpful advice. So did countless others. You just keep asking the same question over, and over, and over again. It never stops. Three forums and four threads you have started now. That's why.
The point is your question was answered countless times. Are you hoping for a different answer? How many people who owned that exact combination, as I did, do you need to tell you it'll be fine before you'll finally believe that it'll be fine?
So how about if you stop wasting everyone's time in multiple forums and multiple threads repeatedly asking the same question over, and over, and over again getting the same 'it'll be fine' responses? Most people get their answer in one thread and move on to something else. You're asking here now because people got sick of the subject in the other two forums.
Yeow...sorry that broke out...What just happened to my thread
Jake kozlowski
TJ Enthusiast
Iv'e read great things about them, but I chose selectable in the rear and lunchbox upfront. The reason i chose that setup was price. I was given a 27 spline ARB for the Dana 35, and purchased a Aussie Locker for the front Dana 30. While that is being put in I decided on a regear. Well, luck has it a buddy of mine had a set of 5.13 gears on his shop's shelf with 1541H shafts... He basically just wanted them gone, so a case of beer and $100 bucks, he just wanted them gone to make room for more parts. It's all currently being installed and will chime back into the forum once its all broken in!
Good luck with your selection process!
Good luck with your selection process!
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