MPG, torque where its needed, reliability, simplicity, cooling, fuel storage, less wear on parts, etc.I'm curious, why do people like diesel engines in a TJ?
And the fuel is combustible rather than flammable.
MPG, torque where its needed, reliability, simplicity, cooling, fuel storage, less wear on parts, etc.I'm curious, why do people like diesel engines in a TJ?
Also in the US, it's rare and we're not allowed to have them.
Yeah generally civilians can't have diesel except in what may seem like large trucks, which we have a lot of. Before the swap I averaged low teens and now low to mid 20s.Why aren't you allowed to have them? Because it runs on diesel? I see a lot of motor swaps on this forum, in my country we basically can't modify anything on a vehicle, even longer springs or bigger tires need lots of paperwork and cash and a new vehicle inspection to be road legal so we can only dream about motor swaps.. But most cars run on diesel here, and of course every motors are different but my 4.0 TJ has more torque than any diesel engine I drove. What kind of MPG do you get?
Yeah generally civilians can't have diesel except in what may seem like large trucks, which we have a lot of. Before the swap I averaged low teens and now low to mid 20s.
Do you mean HP? Because gas engines tend to be much quicker. Diesel typically doesn't have that fun high HP if you like passing people. R2.8 is probably about as fast accelerating as the 4.0. The 4.0 can't maintain highway speed in your highest gear like most diesels cuz it has less torque.
I had some bigger than OEM, heavy and knobby tires, that combination also hurt my gearing which really wasn't good for the stock setup either. The 4.0 is a great engine for reliability and performance. I would venture the 4.0 mechanically, if new is probably more reliable than my r2.8, considering turbo, timing chain and maybe some other stuff. It's just simple. However if anything with a sensor or ignition or cooling or fuel has an issue, you may be stuck.Thanks for the clarifications, maybe I'm lucky but I get around 20mpg and I live in the mountains, my current tires are small though. And I have no problems on the highway maintaining 80mph. The diesel cars I'm comparing to are Honda CR-V, Toyota Rav-4, Hyundai Santa Fe,.. and my TJ feels like it has more torque and HP as well
I'm curious, why do people like diesel engines in a TJ?
Trust me, don't mess around with automotive type diesels . I love the straight 6 and the 4.0 is one of the best, but a modern diesel beats it in every single way. My engine is quieter and rattles less. I did screw up and did polyurethane body lift, so I get some vibrations at idle, but there's nothing once I'm moving. I have no exhaust and it's quieter than my 4.0 with the OEM looking exhaust it had on it when I acquired it. There is the tone from the turbo you notice around that starts around 1,500 RPMs and gets a little louder up to around 2,400 RPMs, but I don't think it's louder than the tires or especially the wind on the highway.I would rather have my straight 6 for sure. I don't have any idea why a diesel would be that interesting in our little Jeeps. I like Mercedes diesels because they don't rattle and make so much noise, but not a fan of others much.
Heck, I'd be willing to fly to KY, drive the thing cross country to OR and fly home for less than the $2k people are saying it would be. I've done it before with a vehicle. Plus I need an excuse to get out of town! Also never been to Oregon, so I could take that off the bucket list! (I'm also not saying I would do it for free either though, ha ha)I wish this was near me. I have no clue what the shipping fees to Oregon would be.
So you're saying you're never going to buy a R2.8?If my 4.0 craps out I would spend the coin to drop in the R2.8T.
Yes and no. When I get ready, my 4.0 will crap out. One way or another. Just have to make it look like an accident. Maybe the oil pan will get punctured on a rock. 2.8, lift, tires, and skids. Think big. In reality, it will be after I retire (in 4.8 yrs I will 20 yr army reserve, not full retirement). I just had my brother go pick up my Jeep extreme camper. I would have picked it but I’m deployed. So if in the next 4.8 years I deploy again I will just bite that bullet and just buy it. I will have that extra loot to make that leap. The other idea I have is to find a blue ‘08 JKU Rubicon (stock). Drop that dog of a 3.8 and slide the R2.8 in it.So you're saying you're never going to buy a R2.8?
My 4.0 wouldn't die. I just had to jump the gun a bit.
Yes and no. When I get ready, my 4.0 will crap out. One way or another. Just have to make it look like an accident. Maybe the oil pan will get punctured on a rock. 2.8, lift, tires, and skids. Think big. In reality, it will be after I retire (in 4.8 yrs I will 20 yr army reserve, not full retirement). I just had my brother go pick up my Jeep extreme camper. I would have picked it but I’m deployed. So if in the next 4.8 years I deploy again I will just bite that bullet and just buy it. I will have that extra loot to make that leap. The other idea I have is to find a blue ‘08 JKU Rubicon (stock). Drop that dog of a 3.8 and slide the R2.8 in it.