Man this is sad news. Does this mean my 97 with 210,000 miles. May fail sooner then later? 
“The 2006 Jeep Wrangler has a dangerously unreliable engine”
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I have a 16’ trail 4Runner. It’s modded and does a good job at what it was designed for. It also weighs over 6k pounds. It’s long. And wide. It will shock some off-road but a TJ owner would go, oh now we put it in 4x4? 
It has the electric off-road stuff like crawl control. Lol, if you haven’t seen that crap in person, it modulates the brakes so much it feels and sounds like it’s going to tear it apart.
I rescued a family in a stock runner last summer that got stuck, first thing he said was crawl control didn’t work. It won’t when you are sitting on the frame in a snow drift.
I love it for overlanding and back roads, I’ll keep my Jeep for Jeep stuff.
It has the electric off-road stuff like crawl control. Lol, if you haven’t seen that crap in person, it modulates the brakes so much it feels and sounds like it’s going to tear it apart.
I rescued a family in a stock runner last summer that got stuck, first thing he said was crawl control didn’t work. It won’t when you are sitting on the frame in a snow drift.
I love it for overlanding and back roads, I’ll keep my Jeep for Jeep stuff.
100% Agree. I don’t think you could get better for camping, exploring, over landing than a mildly built runner - the two just have their own uses. The writer probably thinks off roading is a gravel road or a dirt trail, and that’s where the stock runner vs stock Jeep is going to shine in comfort and ease.I have a 16’ trail 4Runner. It’s modded and does a good job at what it was designed for. It also weighs over 6k pounds. It’s long. And wide. It will shock some off-road but a TJ owner would go, oh now we put it in 4x4?
It has the electric off-road stuff like crawl control. Lol, if you haven’t seen that crap in person, it modulates the brakes so much it feels and sounds like it’s going to tear it apart.
I rescued a family in a stock runner last summer that got stuck, first thing he said was crawl control didn’t work. It won’t when you are sitting on the frame in a snow drift.
I love it for overlanding and back roads, I’ll keep my Jeep for Jeep stuff.
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Done! Like I’m low key salty after reading that.At the bottom of the article there is the option to thumbs it down as “misleading” - I suggest we do that.
I owned a 2003 Toyota Tacoma TRD.
Do you have any idea how much money it costs to do a SAS for the front? I've done the research, and it's around 10k, and that's using leaf springs!
I'm sorry, a Toyota Tacoma or 4Runner may make an excellent vehicle in terms of overlanding and such, but in terms of serious off-roading, if it doesn't have solid axles, I can't take it seriously.
Do you have any idea how much money it costs to do a SAS for the front? I've done the research, and it's around 10k, and that's using leaf springs!
I'm sorry, a Toyota Tacoma or 4Runner may make an excellent vehicle in terms of overlanding and such, but in terms of serious off-roading, if it doesn't have solid axles, I can't take it seriously.
Hopefully enough this article gets around enough to drive the prices of LJs low enough for me to buy one. One can only hope, right?
On another note, I get articles like these pop up on my feed thanks to google. Once i read some full on crap like this, I immediately tell google to stop showing articles from such websites. If I recall correctly, I told google to stop showing articles from Motor Biscuit a loong time ago.
On another note, I get articles like these pop up on my feed thanks to google. Once i read some full on crap like this, I immediately tell google to stop showing articles from such websites. If I recall correctly, I told google to stop showing articles from Motor Biscuit a loong time ago.
I have a 16’ trail 4Runner. It’s modded and does a good job at what it was designed for. It also weighs over 6k pounds. It’s long. And wide. It will shock some off-road but a TJ owner would go, oh now we put it in 4x4?
It has the electric off-road stuff like crawl control. Lol, if you haven’t seen that crap in person, it modulates the brakes so much it feels and sounds like it’s going to tear it apart.
I rescued a family in a stock runner last summer that got stuck, first thing he said was crawl control didn’t work. It won’t when you are sitting on the frame in a snow drift.
I love it for overlanding and back roads, I’ll keep my Jeep for Jeep stuff.
My wife dailies a '10 4Runner. It's more of the luxury grocery getter model with leather seats and a sunroof so it doesn't have crawl control, but it does have part time 4WD.
I agree with everything you said though. It makes a decent camping or overlanding rig. It feels like a pig in comparison to the 4th gen she drove before it....like they added half a ton of weight but used the exact same suspension. I hate changing the oil because of that stupid upside down cartridge filter right above the skid plate, and because of that, it's the only vehicle I've ever followed manufacturer recommended intervals when they say you can go 10,000 miles.
All that said, I wouldn't in a million years use it for the stuff I do with my TJ.
Before I did any mods to my '06 LJ i took it over Imogene Pass in SW Colorado to see what it would do. It only had limited slip rear, open diff front, no lift, no sway bar disconnects. I got to the spot east of the pass and about 1000' under it where the big outcrop is. My spotter was inexperienced and I had not got out to look at it yet. 3-4 Toys were up on the ledge above with drivers yelling something i couldn't hear. It was wet and once my front would lift I would slowly slide back and they'd yell even more. After three attempts I got out to have a look, picked a new approach and slowly went right over. When my spotter got back in I asked him what the Toy drivers were saying- he said "Just Give Her". Then he told me only one of them did not have a busted front end from "giving her" and the others had been winched up. I suppose there are such types driving newer Jeeps but I'm guessing most of us with older rigs prefer being like the old bull. Two bulls were standing on a ridge looking down at a brood of cows- the young one said- "lets run down and get one!" To which the old bull said- "no son- let's walk down and get them all".
Ps- my profile pic is from that first time on the pass and the old bull remains unbroken but modified.
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The newer Tacomas and 4Runners are complete turds. I was driving one wondering why the hell I had to bring it to redline just to get any power out of it.
No idea what Toyota was thinking, but I wouldn't own one just based off my experience driving them.
No idea what Toyota was thinking, but I wouldn't own one just based off my experience driving them.
You're driving a damn time bomb. You irresponsible idiot, sell it now before you & your passengers get killed!
Gave it a thumbs down also let’s you comment what is wrong articleThat was the single stupidest, most uninformed, poorly written article about the TJ I have ever read. At the bottom of the article there is the option to thumbs it down as “misleading” - I suggest we do that.
I drove an 06 4Runner (v8 4wd) as my daily driver from 2008-2016. I put 118k miles on it during that time and I will say it was an Amazing vehicle with great off road performance. However, it required it's share of maintenance. Brake jobs every 23k miles, a timing belt that took 4 full days to replace, and numerous other little things. It was a heavy beast (probably why the undersized brakes needed to be replaced all the time)
The TJ and 4Runner are compared all the time but they are nowhere near the same vehicle. Both have their pros and cons.
I read the article. What a horribly written, uneducated piece of trash. Wish I hadn't wasted my time reading it.
The TJ and 4Runner are compared all the time but they are nowhere near the same vehicle. Both have their pros and cons.
I read the article. What a horribly written, uneducated piece of trash. Wish I hadn't wasted my time reading it.
Just wait until the new Bronco come out, it will be like 1984 all over again with the furd vs heep rivalry! For those of you old enough to remember.
Yeah, I like the third gen 4Runner. The fourth was a step in the wrong direction and the fifth is an abomination.
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