Man this is sad news. Does this mean my 97 with 210,000 miles. May fail sooner then later?
100% Agree. I don’t think you could get better for camping, exploring, over landing than a mildly built runner - the two just have their own uses. The writer probably thinks off roading is a gravel road or a dirt trail, and that’s where the stock runner vs stock Jeep is going to shine in comfort and ease.I have a 16’ trail 4Runner. It’s modded and does a good job at what it was designed for. It also weighs over 6k pounds. It’s long. And wide. It will shock some off-road but a TJ owner would go, oh now we put it in 4x4?
It has the electric off-road stuff like crawl control. Lol, if you haven’t seen that crap in person, it modulates the brakes so much it feels and sounds like it’s going to tear it apart.
I rescued a family in a stock runner last summer that got stuck, first thing he said was crawl control didn’t work. It won’t when you are sitting on the frame in a snow drift.
I love it for overlanding and back roads, I’ll keep my Jeep for Jeep stuff.
Done! Like I’m low key salty after reading that.At the bottom of the article there is the option to thumbs it down as “misleading” - I suggest we do that.
I have a 16’ trail 4Runner. It’s modded and does a good job at what it was designed for. It also weighs over 6k pounds. It’s long. And wide. It will shock some off-road but a TJ owner would go, oh now we put it in 4x4?
It has the electric off-road stuff like crawl control. Lol, if you haven’t seen that crap in person, it modulates the brakes so much it feels and sounds like it’s going to tear it apart.
I rescued a family in a stock runner last summer that got stuck, first thing he said was crawl control didn’t work. It won’t when you are sitting on the frame in a snow drift.
I love it for overlanding and back roads, I’ll keep my Jeep for Jeep stuff.
My dad drives a 99 4Runner limited, and I can say from personal experience that my 01 sport will smoke him off-road any day.This
“Most importantly, the Toyota 4Runner is just as capable off-road as the Wrangler."
Before I did any mods to my '06 LJ i took it over Imogene Pass in SW Colorado to see what it would do. It only had limited slip rear, open diff front, no lift, no sway bar disconnects. I got to the spot east of the pass and about 1000' under it where the big outcrop is. My spotter was inexperienced and I had not got out to look at it yet. 3-4 Toys were up on the ledge above with drivers yelling something i couldn't hear. It was wet and once my front would lift I would slowly slide back and they'd yell even more. After three attempts I got out to have a look, picked a new approach and slowly went right over. When my spotter got back in I asked him what the Toy drivers were saying- he said "Just Give Her". Then he told me only one of them did not have a busted front end from "giving her" and the others had been winched up. I suppose there are such types driving newer Jeeps but I'm guessing most of us with older rigs prefer being like the old bull. Two bulls were standing on a ridge looking down at a brood of cows- the young one said- "lets run down and get one!" To which the old bull said- "no son- let's walk down and get them all".I own a '02 4Runner as well. It's more versatile for sure, with a multi-mode transfer case. And it has the electronic goodies the TJ doesn't like traction control, stability control, and standard ABS.
For off road it really depends on how much money you throw at it. They are a lot better than Jeep fan boys will admit.
But yeah, of all the issues with older Wranglers bad engines aren't really high on the list.
You're driving a damn time bomb. You irresponsible idiot, sell it now before you & your passengers get killed!For sale! Mine has 63k miles on it, I better dump it quick!!!!
Gave it a thumbs down also let’s you comment what is wrong articleThat was the single stupidest, most uninformed, poorly written article about the TJ I have ever read. At the bottom of the article there is the option to thumbs it down as “misleading” - I suggest we do that.
The newer Tacomas and 4Runners are complete turds. I was driving one wondering why the hell I had to bring it to redline just to get any power out of it.
No idea what Toyota was thinking, but I wouldn't own one just based off my experience driving them.
Yeah, I like the third gen 4Runner. The fourth was a step in the wrong direction and the fifth is an abomination.
Sell it already?I owned a 2003 Toyota Tacoma TRD.
Do you have any idea how much money it costs to do a SAS for the front? I've done the research, and it's around 10k, and that's using leaf springs!
I'm sorry, a Toyota Tacoma or 4Runner may make an excellent vehicle in terms of overlanding and such, but in terms of serious off-roading, if it doesn't have solid axles, I can't take it seriously.