Whoever solves this soft top mystery gets a gold star.

Hate to hijack, but I see you have a best top bikini top, I have an oem hardtop that im planning on taking off for the summer and replacing with a bikini top, do I need to buy a header or is it already on there if I have a hard top?
Removing the Jeep's OE soft top leaves nothing for a bikini or safari (longer than a bikini) to connect to up front, so you need some kind of a header for the bikini to attach to.

There are two types of headers, a no-drill header and a drill-type header. I much prefer the drill type header having had both.

The no-drill header uses a pair of bolts to clamp itself to the top of the windshield frame and the bikini (or safari) top's front hard edge is then tucked front-wise into a long slot in the front of the header. To me, both of those are a ritak PITA to install. The header is clumsy to get positioned so the clamp bolts will hold it in the right place. The bikini is a PITA to get to stay put where it "locks" (haha) into the front of the header. The problem is it's hard to get it to stay in the slot. The rear of that style top is held with straps. The header is also a clumsy PITA to carry if you don't want the bikini top on but want to carry it in case you need it later... like if it may rain. It would always take me nearly a half-hour to finally get my drill-style header & bikini top ready so I could drive off.

The drill-style header leaves a small permanently mounted header along the top of the windshield frame, just above where the OE soft or hard top clamps fit into their slots. It attaches with a couple screws that you drill holes for. The drill-type bikini top is then slid sideways into that style header, it takes 5 seconds to slide it into place and then the rear is held in place with straps as well. I can install this style bikini top in 5-10 minutes start to finish, most of the time is just cinching the straps into place.

Bestop sells both types.
 
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You need a header! In my opinion, the "no drill" header is better than the alternative. But, the "drill" header has the advantage of always being attached, and it doesn't get in the way of the hard top latches.

Have you thought about a Spider Web shade? I like my full bikini top. But, it's hard to store. A spider web shade seems like it's much easier to work with.

Nah, I'm looking for something I can throw on on the fly during the summer when it rains. I pulled the hard top off yesterday and plan to keep it off until it gets cold in the fall.
 
Nah, I'm looking for something I can throw on on the fly during the summer when it rains. I pulled the hard top off yesterday and plan to keep it off until it gets cold in the fall.
The best idea I have heard for that is someone had the clamp-on type header & bikini/safari, and they glued the flap from the bikini/safari to the header, so it was permanently attached. Speeds up the install/removal process. Still have to deal with the header clamps, though.
 
Just a question about the drill type header. Can the hard top go back on without removing it?


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Just a question about the drill type header. Can the hard top go back on without removing it?


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No. There is no top header that can stay on with a hardtop. The only exception to this is a spiderweb shade, but they are not waterproof nor block out sun completely. (They don't use a header bar).
 
No. There is no top header that can stay on with a hardtop. The only exception to this is a spiderweb shade, but they are not waterproof nor block out sun completely. (They don't use a header bar).

Cool, thanks for the info.


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No. There is no top header that can stay on with a hardtop. The only exception to this is a spiderweb shade, but they are not waterproof nor block out sun completely. (They don't use a header bar).

I thought the drill-header would be able to stay completely on with a soft top and a hard top?

Do you have a drill header, sir?