Question about running 35s with a 2" lift

The Ontario jeeper said:
With all due respect Chris as I really value your experience and expertise but when you lift it aren't you also making sacrifices? I've seen jeeps flop on their side on things I've walked through. I've also been hung up on my belly where lifted jeeps walk through. I believe both sides of the spectrum have ups and downs
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With more experience you'd learn there are WAY more downs than ups to to running 35's with a 2" lift. And personally, I can't come up with a single 'up' to that combination other than more $$$ in the bank from not having spent the $$$ to do it right.

You may have convinced yourself doing that to achieve a lower COG is a good thing but it's just going to suck at everything. But of course you're right and we're all wrong in your mind so just go do it. And though I know I'm just shouting into the wind here, lifting a TJ enough to successfully run 35's doesn't mean its COG will be high enough to cause it to flop.

Here's just one example, and no the photo has not been edited to make it look like he's tipped further over than he really is. This is a Jeep that mrblaine built years ago.

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The bottom line is installing the RECOMMENDED 4" suspension lift plus a 1" body lift for 35's is not going to be causing your Jeep to flop or roll on a trail you're likely to run unless you do something really dumb. You have the same fear that any relatively new or unexperienced offroader has about installing too much lift height but trust us when we say it's not the issue you're thinking it is. Not by a long shot.

You can't run 35's and expect your Jeep to perform, stop, and handle well without a lot of work and $$$. If you're not going to do it right, don't do it at all.
 
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I know you are joking about the up north thing but honestly being in Canada does give you a bit of a different perspective because better parts are so much more costly here.

A set of Curry arms here are $2,312.52 (quote from Savvy)

So you do tend to have Canadians have a slightly different feeling of value. Just for fun, I decided to see what the Savvy 4 inch ultimate kit would cost me. It's $2735.00 for folks in the US but for me, it would be right around $5,000 and yes that is CDN but $1 to you is the same $1 to me.. Well, not really mine is called a loonie.. But, suddenly I'm looking for other options.

Not all parts are more expensive up here. Some products like Rubicon Express, Rough Country or Zone are actually cheaper because they price them for the Canadian market. I used to work for a company that got bought by TransAmerican but got really tired of selling SkyJacker kits :)

So you'll see Canadians do different things.. One tonnes, hacked fenders, coil spacers on 35s is a thing here and way more common than a traditional lift kit you'd see on here.
 
JeepingNet said:
I know you are joking about the up north thing but honestly being in Canada does give you a bit of a different perspective because better parts are so much more costly here.

A set of Curry arms here are $2,312.52 (quote from Savvy)

So you do tend to have Canadians have a slightly different feeling of value. Just for fun, I decided to see what the Savvy 4 inch ultimate kit would cost me. It's $2735.00 for folks in the US but for me, it would be right around $5,000 and yes that is CDN but $1 to you is the same $1 to me.. Well, not really mine is called a loonie.. But, suddenly I'm looking for other options.

Not all parts are more expensive up here. Some products like Rubicon Express, Rough Country or Zone are actually cheaper because they price them for the Canadian market. I used to work for a company that got bought by TransAmerican but got really tired of selling SkyJacker kits :)

So you'll see Canadians do different things.. One tonnes, hacked fenders, coil spacers on 35s is a thing here and way more common than a traditional lift kit you'd see on here.
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One of my favorite folks I've interacted with on the internet and then later via hundreds of phone calls and emails was from Calgary and his name was Bill Berry. He started out being a dick to me on Jeeps Unlimited over how awesome RE was since that is all he had experience with up north. Later he figured out that there is a reason for all the bullshit and built a very nice rig with nary an RE part on it. If it wasn't for my intense enjoyment over our eventual friendship and his willingness to learn, I'd never speak to another Canadian.
 
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mrblaine said:
One of my favorite folks I've interacted with on the internet and then later via hundreds of phone calls and emails was from Calgary and his name was Bill Berry. He started out being a dick to me on Jeeps Unlimited over how awesome RE was since that is all he had experience with up north. Later he figured out that there is a reason for all the bullshit and built a very nice rig with nary an RE part on it. If it wasn't for my intense enjoyment over our eventual friendship and his willingness to learn, I'd never speak to another Canadian.
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Fair enough that is an opinion. A fairly short sited one I might guess. But carry on and have a wonderful day.
 
How does the Canadian dollar change the way things function?
 
I am gonna second @JMT on the 3" Suspension lift and 1,25" body lift, I had 33s from the previous owner even before i did the body lift and they still fit. I plan on going with a true highline fender (from poison spyder) down the road when I run 35s. Heres a pic in Johnson valley on 3" SL and 1.25" BL
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Jerry Bransford said:
And though I know I'm just shouting into the wind here, lifting a TJ enough to successfully run 35's doesn't mean its COG will be high enough to cause it to flop.
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I agree with jerry, it is nearly just as easy to roll a stock jeep than a built one with bigger tires and a lifted setup when wheeling, the only thing that stops you from rolling is having some brain cells, and watching your spotter.
 
jjvw said:
How does the Canadian dollar change the way things function?
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Fair question

First it is not so much the dollar but the magical shipping line that makes a products go from free shipping to $500 shipping. I once paid 3x more in shipping then I did the product..

The function is still the same but the methods you may take to get around that function may change.

It was mentioned to do COG correctly is costly. It’s not as costly when you factor in the price to do the suggested lift is x times higher. So it is more of a discussable topic when you factor in the Canadian equation.

But no obviously the physics are still the same... errr well assuming you convert inches to cm correctly ;)
 
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I'll chime in...

The OP (seems like back in Vietnam) was asking if it was possible to run 35's on a 2" lift with some added clearance fenders.

What he or she got was a scolding and the ruler across the patties.

I can understand the frustration of Ontario to some degree because the OP didn't ask if his rig would be perfect and ready for the Top Truck Challenge or a rig to tackle all black trails in 2 wheel drive high unlocked.

Just simply...a 2" lift with the metal cloaks...can 35's fit? The OP already stated the build would be a work in progress.

In fact they can fit. Now I'm sure rhe OP didn't need the 800 disclaimers because honestly there might 1 percent of posters who's rig is done being built and perfect. These are all a work in progress and finding out what is good, bad and ugly to each individual...differing between individuals.

Good day
 
If you don't like experienced opinions being offered in forum threads and believe everyone should instead bless every plan described then you have entirely missed the most attractive purpose of forums like this. Big boys can take differences of opinions... and hopefully learn something in the process.

This world is in an unfortunate phase of handing participation trophies out to everyone to make them all feel good instead of winner's trophies to those who actually deserve them.

In other words, disagreements bring out the best plans and designs. Blessing and praising every plan offered does not.
 
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After reading through this thread I’m thinking to myself that I do in fact have a lift of some kind on my TJ. This might sound very ignorant of me to not know however I have gone back and forth with jeepers and mechanics about it. And when the gentlemen sold it to me he said there wasn’t one. They are rubicon rims and a set of KO’s that stand 31” tall. There is at least 3-5” of room from the tire to stock fender. No body lift, and shocks and springs seem stock from what I can tell. My only guess is a coil spring spacer set? I’m naive to what the OEM coil springs look like from the factory. Everything like the track bars, control arms, front end steering and suspension all is stock because I have replaced most of it already. And thoughts?
 
Collinniggemann said:
After reading through this thread I’m thinking to myself that I do in fact have a lift of some kind on my TJ. This might sound very ignorant of me to not know however I have gone back and forth with jeepers and mechanics about it. And when the gentlemen sold it to me he said there wasn’t one. They are rubicon rims and a set of KO’s that stand 31” tall. There is at least 3-5” of room from the tire to stock fender. No body lift, and shocks and springs seem stock from what I can tell. My only guess is a coil spring spacer set? I’m naive to what the OEM coil springs look like from the factory. Everything like the track bars, control arms, front end steering and suspension all is stock because I have replaced most of it already. And thoughts?
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It’s easy to measure and determine if you have any lift or not.

Measure the front coil springs and any aftermarket spacer. Do not include the coil spring isolator at the top. Stock measures 12”. Anything over that is the amount of lift you have. E.g. if it measures 14”, then 14-12 = 2” of lift in front.

Do the same in the rear, but stock is 8”, so anything over that is the amount of lift.

Measure both because they can be different amounts of lift.
 
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