I see no real reason to not disconnect the swaybar unless you're doing high-speed stuff. like said above, while a locked wheel is good, a locked wheel with traction is better.
Keeping sway bars connected with lockers
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True, this is why dragsters have tires that are all the same size.
Seriously, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. Distribution of the traction to the different tires doesn't matter, just the total?
in theory, maybe the dragster has limited traction, thus choosing so spend it at its rear wheels to launch better (RWD) but as for a jeep. it seems to me that what he might be alluding to is "maximum traction" the TJ as a platform must have a max amount of traction assuming the best conditions, (completely dry dragstrip and super sticky tires, at some point you could lose traction, and there would be nothing you could do to find more) and all the offroading mods we do are really about getting the largest % of that max traction available for use?True, this is why dragsters have tires that are all the same size.
Seriously, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. Distribution of the traction to the different tires doesn't matter, just the total?
Just a theory.
That is about as far removed as you can get from this discussion. What size would the fucking front tires be if it was 4 wheel drive?True, this is why dragsters have tires that are all the same size.
My only point is that you only have as much traction available as the weight of the rig will provide. If you two tires on the ground and it is locked, that is exactly the same amount of traction as all four because each of the two is still supporting the whole weight of the rig.
This is true but I think the hang-up people are having is how this applied to the real world scenarios in which you wheel. I'm sure I don't have to explain to you why this simplification doesn't apply when you are trying to climb over the boulder in front of you.
Okay not to derail this discussion but since we are talking about the weight of the rig applied to traction can you explain in a simple way why then does a lighter rig do better than a heavier rig? This is the reason for going with aluminum armor and not steel? If more weight meant more traction wouldn't the heavier rig do better?
Weight essentially cancels out when it comes to traction (looking at it from a theoretical perspective). You have more weight pushing down on the ground but you also have more weight that the traction from the tire needs to move.
Spoilers are a semi-good example of this idea. Spoilers produce more downforce (weight on the ground) for cornering but don't add to the weight of the car for things like acceleration (besides the drag of the wing).
Spoilers are a semi-good example of this idea. Spoilers produce more downforce (weight on the ground) for cornering but don't add to the weight of the car for things like acceleration (besides the drag of the wing).
I debated even answering because I knew you would go there even though you requested an answer in the simplest form possible.
Simple in how it relates to our Jeeps. And most of my hiking for the last 20+ years was with a 80 lb ruck on my back.
I get that if the rig is lighter that to drag it over something it will technically be easier but at the same time if I only have 100 lbs of pressure on a tire because my Jeep weighs X as opposed to the one that has 150 lbs of pressure on the tire because it weighs XX which one has more traction?
It isn't technically easier, it is easier. Everything has to work harder to move the rig down the trail.
I'll bite...which one has ENOUGH traction? What are you willing to sacrifice to get it? Traction is the goal of course, necessary for forward movement, but it needs to be tempered by the capabilities of the equipment and power available. axles, motor, trans.
Look at it in extreme examples, a jeep with a 4.0 at 4k lbs vs a jeep with the 4.0 at 10k lbs. which one has the traction it needs? likely both. which one is putting more stress on every component?
You need as much weight as you need, anything more is a hindrance.
A stock jeep is heavy enough. You want the heavy armor or the light armor?
Look at it in extreme examples, a jeep with a 4.0 at 4k lbs vs a jeep with the 4.0 at 10k lbs. which one has the traction it needs? likely both. which one is putting more stress on every component?
You need as much weight as you need, anything more is a hindrance.
A stock jeep is heavy enough. You want the heavy armor or the light armor?
You have never believed that weight matters. Yep, more traction is better, so build as heavy as fucking possible.