What RPM should I be shifting at?

Did you ask the engine how it feels? Did you know that TJs with automatics shift well above what you find uncomfortable? But for some reason the moment there is a manual stuck on there everyone gets the idea that the very same engine is a delicate flower.
Like I said I've never owned a TJ I have owned a Jeep Comanche with a 5-speed but this is my first TJ and going by engine sound yes it sounds like it's wound tight. It could be that my 373 gear is just not low enough or could be because I have high miles I'm just going by the sound of the engine. Either way I appreciate all the help and I will drive by what sounds comfortable on my motor to me.
 
I guess this is definitely a matter of personal preference. Like was said, just shift whenever the Jeep feels ready to. I have 4.56 with 33s and it feels about perfect. On the highway at 75-80 it's right under 3k. Around town or just cruising I usually shift around 2500-2800. Getting on the highway or any other quick pickup situation, around 3000 or a touch over. I've never purposely went over 3500. I guess this would also have to do with my wanting to be a little more gentle with my 21yr old daily drivers engine.
 
I guess this is definitely a matter of personal preference. Like was said, just shift whenever the Jeep feels ready to. I have 4.56 with 33s and it feels about perfect. On the highway at 75-80 it's right under 3k. Around town or just cruising I usually shift around 2500-2800. Getting on the highway or any other quick pickup situation, around 3000 or a touch over. I've never purposely went over 3500. I guess this would also have to do with my wanting to be a little more gentle with my 21yr old daily drivers engine.
I agree with you and I would say if I was lower geared where I'm shifting that would be around 2,500 but with my 373 gears and 33 inch tires it's just not that high. That's why I'm considering lower gears and size smaller tires.
 
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I've owned several manuals in my life just never a TJ and going from sound my motor at 3,500 RPM and above sounds like it's getting wound to me. Maybe not trying to go up mountains but on flat ground it does. My drive to work is about an hour highest speed limit is 55. I usually run 60 but if I run 4th gear all the way my mileage drops way down. Yes I tried it. 😁😁
Yea the 4.0 is a screamer but she can handle it
 
I shift at 3000+
 
Depends on how fast you want/need to accelerate, how much throttle you're using, and how much load you're pushing. Around town, I shift around 2500. Accelerating onto the freeway, anywhere between 3000 and 4000. Very light on the throttle in a residential neighborhood? About 2000 or maybe a hair less.

I'd be happier if I could shift below 1500 on occasion, but the 4.0 doesn't like that.
 
I shift at 4500 pretty regularly in 1st and 2nd. I have to pull out into a 55 without a great view.

If 3500 seems or sounds too high, you may need some maintenance done. Floppy timing chain or noisy lifters or exhaust manifold leaks make all sorts of noise. And anything that might be rattling like crazy.
 
I guess this is definitely a matter of personal preference. Like was said, just shift whenever the Jeep feels ready to. I have 4.56 with 33s and it feels about perfect. On the highway at 75-80 it's right under 3k. Around town or just cruising I usually shift around 2500-2800. Getting on the highway or any other quick pickup situation, around 3000 or a touch over. I've never purposely went over 3500. I guess this would also have to do with my wanting to be a little more gentle with my 21yr old daily drivers engine.
I guess this is definitely a matter of personal preference. Like was said, just shift whenever the Jeep feels ready to. I have 4.56 with 33s and it feels about perfect. On the highway at 75-80 it's right under 3k. Around town or just cruising I usually shift around 2500-2800. Getting on the highway or any other quick pickup situation, around 3000 or a touch over. I've never purposely went over 3500. I guess this would also have to do with my wanting to be a little more gentle with my 21yr old daily drivers engine.
This is how my stock TJ drives, maybe I have just driven too many 6 wheelers?
 
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Listen to Joe Biden's advice always. AOC does.
p.s. Thank you so much for your screen name and avatar. Now Chris can't "legally" ban me for talking politics on this forum.
Come On Man! Anyone would think you were a one horse pony soldier! saying things like that puts my blond leg hairs all a quiver :)
 
I shift mine almost always at 3k - 3.5k When street driving it. No issues I even shift at 4K when headed up the mountain passes. I regularly cruise a 3k on the highway or freeway
 
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This is a copy-paste from a previous post I wrote. The discussion was primarily oriented to the most economical way to drive, but it also ties in well with optimal RPM for prolonging engine life.


The optimal RPM for fuel economy is entirely load dependent. The engine itself is generally most thermodynamically efficient when at full throttle at around the peak torque RPM. At this RPM and throttle position, the engine is most capable of turning the chemical energy of gasoline into usable work. I don’t know the thermodynamic efficiency of the 4.0, but 40% is a good estimate for many engines in this condition.

However, we rarely need that much power or torque continuously, so at lower power/torque demands, different RPMs are appropriate. At lower torque demands, thermodynamic efficiency drops, and the ideal RPM for that demand changes with it.

Note that “torque demand” and “engine torque” generally do not mean the same thing. Torque demand is torque desired by the user at the wheels, which is proportional to the engine torque times any gear reduction ratios divided by any loss ratios. Engine torque is the torque at the crankshaft only, and is not affected by change in gear ratios (e.g., shifting gears).

At freeway speeds (~70-80 mph), the torque demand is often very high, and an RPM closer to peak torque such as between 2500-3200 RPM is generally appropriate for fuel economy.

At lower highway speeds (~55 mph) torque demand is lower, and you can get good economy at a lower RPM, usually 2000-2400 depending upon actual load.

At very low speeds or situations with very low torque demands, much lower RPMs can be appropriate. If you only need a very small amount of torque to sustain speed down a big hill, RPMs as low as 12-1500 could even be appropriate.

As a general rule of thumb, I like to think of throttle position versus RPM range.

TJs idle about 700 RPM and experience peak torque right around 3200 RPM. If zero torque (closed throttle) is demanded, the most efficient position is idle. If maximum torque is demanded (wide open throttle) the most efficient position is the peak engine torque RPM, or about 3200 RPM.

You can interpolate any of those values using throttle position versus relative RPM. So if I’m holding a position of about 50% throttle, about 2000 RPM is a good target for economy. 75% throttle, and I would probably want about 2600 RPM.

There isn’t an exact correlation between throttle position and demanded torque, but it is close enough that throttle position can be used as a guide for demanded torque. In this case, throttle position is determined by how far down in the travel range the gas pedal is. 50% throttle means the gas pedal is depressed halfway.

Above the peak torque RPM, thermodynamic efficiency tends to drop, however, sometimes the additional power is required to get torque at the wheels. Thus, excursions over 3200 RPM will likely negatively impact fuel economy, but may still be required to deliver the demanded torque at the wheels. Brief excursions should not have a very large impact upon fuel economy, though thermodynamic efficiency (and subsequently fuel economy) begins to drop drastically above the peak horsepower RPM (4600 rpm).
 
2004 I6 5 speed 33x12.5 tires.
My shift light says shift at 2000rpm but it feels sluggish after I hit 5th at 2000. What's running rpm for the i6?
You can piss all over that light.

Shifting is a sense of feel motivated by speed, power, terrain/incline/decline, ears, etc.

It's only something one acquires through many hours of doing the 3 pedal 2 step dance.
 
this is something I struggled with, I come from messing with LS v8 cars and Subaru's ej platform, and both of those cars do great at low rpms. The jeep which I have same set up you do loves 2500-3500 shifts especially where I live in the hills of east Tennessee also still get decent mpg for what it is last tank avg 16
 
Consider the shift light as essentially training wheels for people who have never driven manual before. I rarely pay attention to the shift indicator light, as I figured out early on it almost always indicates a shift too early (at low RPMs). I generally go by engine sound more than anything else; with additional experience, you’ll find the vehicle will tell you when it needs for you to shift.
 
One thing to note too about the shift light, if you haven't regeared but are running larger tires, the indicator light will not correlate with actual speed/load tables. It gets better if you regear and adjust the t-case speedo gear to match, but it's still very conservative. As others have said, it's a good "training wheel" for some and has a similar effect of the "economy leaf" screen on newer Ford hybrids.