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ColoJeep said:
Although too rich for my blood , this is way cool , a RCSB with a blown 5.0 4x4 would be fun and hold it's value. If the Cam phaser's didn't explode .
Chevy won't build a RCSB with a LS . and screw their turboed 4 banger ! it just screams VW style reliability to be. Thanks Mary. :rolleyes:
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With a bit more work you can have this. Watch that speedometer at the beginning.

 
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Apparition said:
It’s got 100,000 mile warranty. I’ll change it when the truck tells me. You probably aren’t running synthetic either.
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You gotta do whatcha gotta do - but it doesn't matter if its synthetic or dino juice - diesel oil gets dirty and it gets dirty fast. 5K is the absolute max I'd even think about, but I'm a traditionalist and change mine at 3K.
 
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It’s got 100,000 mile warranty. I’ll change it when the truck tells me. You probably aren’t running synthetic either.
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Serious question; What's the recommended oil change interval on your truck? I know diesels take more oil but I also assumed that meant a longer change interval. Of course because you to your own oil changes the extra oil is not a big deal.
 
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Serious question; What's the recommended oil change interval on your truck? I know diesels take more oil but I also assumed that meant a longer change interval. Of course because you to your own oil changes the extra oil is not a big deal.
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The manual says 10k or if the oil monitor says to do it sooner. The monitor has been close to 10k.

Oil changes are super simple on it as it sits high and everything is easily accessible.
 
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I've been looking at towing capacity and not realizing that Payload capacity is much less.

So for example, the RAM 1500 lists towing capacity:
3.21 = 8,120lbs
3.92 = 11,220lbs

Though I'm reading those numbers aren't really what I should be looking at. Am I supposed to be looking at GVWR? That lists 6800.

So how much does the typical Jeep weigh + typical trailer (assuming not aluminum at this point). Looks like gear ratio isn't that important?

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suicideking said:
I've been looking at towing capacity and not realizing that Payload capacity is much less.

So for example, the RAM 1500 lists towing capacity:
3.21 = 8,120lbs
3.92 = 11,220lbs

Though I'm reading those numbers aren't really what I should be looking at. Am I supposed to be looking at GVWR? That lists 6800.

So how much does the typical Jeep weigh + typical trailer (assuming not aluminum at this point). Looks like gear ratio isn't that important?

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Payload will almost always get you before towing capacity. I think the rule is about 10% of your trailer load for tongue weight. Which is added as part of your payload.

So, if your trailer/load is 5000 pounds, roughly 500 would be your tongue weight which goes towards your payload capacity.
 
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I cant remember where this thread started but I have towed my LJ on a Uhaul trailer over 850 miles and no problems with a 1500 truck. If I was doing it frequently I would consider getting a 2500, which is exactly what I have on order. Uhaul trailer was around 2000lbs and figure 4-5 K for Jeep.
 
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I cant remember where this thread started but I have towed my LJ on a Uhaul trailer over 850 miles and no problems with a 1500 truck. If I was doing it frequently I would consider getting a 2500, which is exactly what I have on order. Uhaul trailer was around 2000lbs and figure 4-5 K for Jeep.
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I don't plan to tow far or often really. Just trying to understand how concerned I should be regarding towing capacity, and if it should determine what gears I get. Mostly looking for a decent DD that can tow occasionally.

At first, I was thinking that with the RAM example above, that I should not get the 3.21 gears because towing capacity is much less when compared to 3.92 gears. After reading it seems like either will be fine, but 3.92 would be better. Problem is most RAM trucks have 3.21. Only the Rebel seems to come standard with 3.92. The Rebel is only in my price range if used and I'm not crazy about the red trim inside.

At least The Tundra makes it easy. There are no options for gears, all of them get 3.31 and there's only one tow package. You either have the tow package or you don't. Whereas Ford seems to be the most confusing with multiple tow packages, gear ratios, and engines.
 
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I don't plan to tow far or often really. Just trying to understand how concerned I should be regarding towing capacity, and if it should determine what gears I get. Mostly looking for a decent DD that can tow occasionally.

At first, I was thinking that with the RAM example above, that I should not get the 3.21 gears because towing capacity is much less when compared to 3.92 gears. After reading it seems like either will be fine, but 3.92 would be better. Problem is most RAM trucks have 3.21. Only the Rebel seems to come standard with 3.92. The Rebel is only in my price range if used and I'm not crazy about the red trim inside.

At least The Tundra makes it easy. There are no options for gears, all of them get 3.31 and there's only one tow package. You either have the tow package or you don't. Whereas Ford seems to be the most confusing with multiple tow packages, gear ratios, and engines.
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I found that Ram was the easiest to figure out towing capacity. Just go to Ram's website and you can search for trucks with just that gear ratio withing maybe 200 miles. I would only select the options you have to have, otherwise you end of with a big list of trucks that say things like 8 out of 10 matching criteria. I think I just selected 5.7, crew cab and 3.92 gear ratio. Kind of sucks but you have to do 2023 and 2024 separately (if you were willing to buy a 2023). The price on Ram's website isn't always accurate but it will give you all the 3.92 trucks in your area.
 
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I cant remember where this thread started but I have towed my LJ on a Uhaul trailer over 850 miles and no problems with a 1500 truck. If I was doing it frequently I would consider getting a 2500, which is exactly what I have on order. Uhaul trailer was around 2000lbs and figure 4-5 K for Jeep.
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I think my LJ weighs 3040#. If you add 2000# for a trailer, you're (~10%) 500# towards your payload. This is under the payload and max tow capacity. Add 4 full size adults and some luggage, you're probably over on the payload, but still under the towing capacity.

When I had my Toyota Tundra and a 30' travel trailer, I was under my towing capacity, but over my payload. My truck pulled the travel trailer easily, but I found out if I was in an accident, my insurance company could deny my claim.
 
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My LJR weighed 4000 lbs with 5/8 tank of gas, no doors, no tire carrier, no spare tire, bikini top only. 35 inch tires on 17 inch wheels. Rear seat in. Heavy bumpers. Winch.
 
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My LJR weighed 4000 lbs with 5/8 tank of gas, no doors, no tire carrier, no spare tire, bikini top only. 35 inch tires on 17 inch wheels. Rear seat in. Heavy bumpers. Winch.
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Maybe I got my number backwards, and it was 4030, with a hardtop, aftermarket bumpers, and no winch. I was hauling tree trimmings across the scale at the landfill and subtracted my trailer weight from the total. Either that, or the landfill scale is way off.
 
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My 2021 1500 Big Horn has a gvwr of 7100lbs. My door sticker says I have 1780lbs of payload. After doing a dump run and checking the trucks weight with me and a full tank of gas that day, my payload is actually just over 1500lbs. Our travel trailer weighs 5,500lbs loaded and I'm very comfortable towing it. We did a 3,500 mile trip in October to Mississippi and back up through eastern New Mexico to Santa Fe and then back home to South East Arizona. I was very happy with the way the truck handled everything. I have the non-etorq with the 3.92 gears.
 
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DavidBT said:
My 2021 1500 Big Horn has a gvwr of 7100lbs. My door sticker says I have 1780lbs of payload. After doing a dump run and checking the trucks weight with me and a full tank of gas that day, my payload is actually just over 1500lbs. Our travel trailer weighs 5,500lbs loaded and I'm very comfortable towing it. We did a 3,500 mile trip in October to Mississippi and back up through eastern New Mexico to Santa Fe and then back home to South East Arizona. I was very happy with the way the truck handled everything. I have the non-etorq with the 3.92 gears.
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I would like to just say that if you don't tow often, 3.21 gears probably won't be a issue for you, and might get a couple mpg's more than the 3.92s. I choose 3.92s because we have elevation gain every where in Arizona.
 
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