Why do some people not carry Hi-Lift jacks?

I'm reading through some threads and I see the old school guys on here don't carry Hi Lift jacks. Why? How do you change your tire on the trail if you get a flat?

A Hi-Lift jack is not the proper tool for changing tires. Use the factory scissors jack or a bottle jack instead. A 12" x 12" piece of 3/4" plywood for a base adds stability.

A Hi-Lift is probably the most overrated offroad tool. I own one - a raffle prize many years ago - that has been rebuilt more often over the decades than it has been used. I still carry it, primarily because my rear bumper has a mount for it low and out of the way and because it might as well be mounted there as sitting in a corner of my garage gathering dust. I suffer no illusions about using it for much of anything.

The very few times it has been used it has been to jack up someone else's rig that was high centered so that we could push the rig away from the offending rock. By "we" I mostly mean they because I would prefer to watch from a distance - I think Hi-Lift jacks are dangerous and I'd like to keep all of my teeth for as long as I can.

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A Hi-Lift jack is not the proper tool for changing tires. Use the factory scissors jack or a bottle jack instead. A 12" x 12" piece of 3/4" plywood for a base adds stability.

A Hi-Lift is probably the most overrated offroad tool. I own one - a raffle prize many years ago - that has been rebuilt more often over the decades than it has been used. I still carry it, primarily because my rear bumper has a mount for it low and out of the way and because it might as well be mounted there as sitting in a corner of my garage gathering dust. I suffer no illusions about using it for much of anything.

The very few times it has been used it has been to jack up someone else's rig that was high centered so that we could push the rig away from the offending rock. By "we" I mostly mean they because I would prefer to watch from a distance - I think Hi-Lift jacks are dangerous and I'd like to keep all of my teeth for as long as I can.

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If I was ever given a free one, I'd probably do the same. As much as I have no interest in really owning one, they do look pretty cool and it could at least be a backup winch (if you have the chains for it or whatever) in case your battery goes dead or something.

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I've used one twice for busting a tire bead to install a new valve stem and once to clean mud from the bead.

I've seen guys jack up a corner a little to get the "shovel" to clear and drive forward.

Wouldn't change a tire with one though.
 
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I have two. Bought them at the flea market for $10 each. I used it once. I got rutted in a dry wash and jacked the front bumper up and since it was a stock bumper, once up a foot I pushed it over sideways. I did this twice and moved the jeep sideways 2 Feet and was out of the rut. The one on my hood is for the cool look for my Prize Winning Stock TJ.
I also carry a 12 ton bottle jack for actual work.
Next I tem I bought was a locker and a winch.
 
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I got one with the Jeep. It has sat in my garage since I got it. Only time it was used was by a friend that used it to jack up his boat hoist so he could level the feet. It worked well because he didn't have to dive under the water like a traditional jack. At least it has gotten used a couple of times! And hats off to the guy in the video! He took that shot like a champ - that was a solid hit.
 
I've had one for 40 years and have used it once - to jack up a floor joist in the house to accept a brace underneath after a load bearing wall was knocked out.
 
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I keep mine in the garage and use it for things like this - straightening out the radiator brace on my daughter's Camry after she had a bit of a vehicular disagreement with another car. The jack is solidly attached to my bumper with a couple of d-rings on one end and a tiedown strap around the brace on the other (the strap was the only thing I had that would fit around the brace). The strap was the weak point, if it were to break the jack would simply drop down to the bumper of her car - no snapback on the jack handle. Works good, lasts a long time. Note her boyfriend taking photos from the other side, in case the ER doctor needed an explanation...

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Funny, I had this in my amazon cart. I wish the base disconnected or there was someway to break it down for easier storage. Where do you keep it in your Jeep?
I don't carry it in the jeep. Its just a garage tool. I use it primarily for the front axle and a transmission support.

The factory jack works in a pinch out on the trail.
 
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The stock bottle jack is undisputedly safer for changing wheels up to 35", and in addition, a winch and the proper recovery gear will get you out of just about any situation you can get yourself into much better (and usually safer) than a hi-lift jack can.

A very good alternative to the factory TJ jack is the OEM jack that was used in the '70s - '80s Chevrolet/GMC trucks.
It is virtually foolproof. Has a large base and is a telescoping screw type unit.
Combined with wood blocking (which you should always be carrying) this is a very versatile jack.
These jacks can be found at any wrecking yard for very little coin.
 
I used my Hi-Lift jack a couple years ago in Moab when I lost my right front coil spring. Had to lift it high enough to get the spring back in, which I was able to do. I've had mine for 30 years or more. It does come in handy now and then.
I do agree....seeing them on the hood of a Jeep makes me cringe.
 
Does that fit under the axle?
I have the same and yes it does...I had one issue with this jack though as it wouldn't come down. I bled it, cursed at it and scratched my head for a good half hour...then I just started cranking it up to the max and it eventually came down...guess I had air in there..I only glanced at the link but I have the one with the extended arm attachment.
 
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I have it to and ran into the same issue.

I just haven’t used it on the Jeep yet.