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Honestly, MC probably could get more sales if they had a zerk on their arms. It seems like it would be really easy for them to cut an indent down the middle of the bushing to actually make the zerk fully functional even. But I think the problem would be they require special grease. I think...

That is what I thought as well. But I can't imagine that Fox builds 2 different shocks, that use identical looking tubes, but gives them the same part number. That would be insane. I can only begin to imagine the issues that would cause. How do you keep the Savvy tune separate from the Fox...

Thank you MrBlaine. Thats a very informative summary of why things are the way they are. So clearly its not the result of 'shit' engineering at all. But unfortunately, the result of staying competitive in an ignorant market. As sad as that is.

At one time JKS made control arms with Clevite on both ends and a shaft that twisted in the middle. It was an admirable attempt to solve the problem of being maintenance free and yet providing full flex. But I don't see them on their website any more. So either due to lack of sales or issues...

Did he? I think there is a lot of confussion due to part numbers. The box does not indicate it is the Savvy valved shock. Its the standard Fox part #. So how do you know they are valved any different. Its strange that the Savvy part number is not included anywhere.

Yeah, I see 16.5" now. I looked wrong before. So I agree, when you take into account the rubber bushing that is perfect for 15.5" shock. That jives with what I was seeing. Now can I ask you to measure that bumpstop. Is that only 2" bumpstop? I have 2" of hockey pucks on mine (plus 3/8...

Can you measure the shock itself. What does it actually measure when it is mounted and fully compressed.

That is a good picture of the space you have between mounts. I took measurments on my Jeep from that same location and I had 15 5/8" on my Rubicon with 2 hockey pucks. So you have a little more room than me. But my concern was how much do the rubber bushings in the shocks compress when you...

That might be the case. I knew my Jeep would be used mostly on the road. I wouldn't be hard core rock crawling on a regular basis. So damaging my joints from constant flex was not my main concern. I was more concerned about keeping things tight, keeping NVH to a minimum, and I wanted to...

The OP might want to consider a 3" lift with 1" body lift. Geometry starts to cause more issues at 4" short arms. You could try piecing something together to get the best of each component. I have 3' JKS springs, with Rancho D2 (DDB) busings and Bilstein shocks. This works well for me. I...

Yeah, but with only 14,000 miles, that is a rare find. Its competing in a market with new JLs based on mileage. I wouldn't be surprised if it sells for close to $30,000.

I don't think finding the shock is the problem. Finding the tuner is the problem. I'm pretty sure Savvy was having Wayne tune their Fox IFP before they were having Fox do it. Comments earlier in this thread also lead me to believe that Full Stack Motorsports said they can be tuned but they...

This is really good info. So while it appears the performance 2.0 IFP are tunable, it sounds like its really a pain to do it and most people don't want to mess with it. This also explains why Accutune doesn't tune the IFP. I called them at one time and they will only tune the Resi shocks...

I enjoy learning about physics Good thread.

Great review. Thanks. Surprising results. Now more than ever I wish you did have a set of 5100s to compare against. Your onroad reviews sound more like I would have expected from the Bilstein. I would have expected the Fox to have poor highway handling but good at neighborhood streets and...

Here is a prime example of why its best to get more info from somebody about the weight of their jeep before recommending shocks (I'd suggest adding driver preferences and type of driving as well). Someguys Jeep is used so different than mine there is no way we would ever have the same...

I agree. And that is why the Savvy, JKS, and BDS tuned Fox are more tempting than the generic. (If you believing them that they actually are tuned differently) Almost certainly they won't be the best tune for everyone, but you would think that they would have to be better than the generic Fox...

True. It is the moving mass that needs to be controlled.

I'm not assuming they have different tunes. I am believing each company when they explicitly state their Fox shocks are custom tuned for them. Thats all I'm saying. An off the shelf Fox has a generic tune for the XJ and a TJ. Rancho does the same thing with some of their shocks like the...

I'd love to see a picture of how much shock is left of a 15.5" collapsed shock on 2" bumpstop if you come across one or do one in the future. Setting up my Jeep is just didn't seem like it would fit. Thanks.