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AlaskanTJ

AlaskanTJ

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I'm looking to get started on swapping a 5.9 Magnum into my TJ in the next couple months, and I wanted to try and get answers to some questions I haven't been able to answer just from scouring various forums. Here's what I'm working with to start with:

2001 TJ Sport
4.0 Auto
Dana 44 Rear
4 in lift with T-case drop brackets

Donor Vehicle is a 2003 Ram 1500 5.9 Auto

Some initial questions I have:
The Ram has functional Cruise Control, but my TJ did not come with it. Am I going to need to add wiring on the body side to get it to work, and would I need a newer year's steering wheel? Could I use the Dodge's, as silly as that would look?

I was able to get a ZJ 46RE for free, but I am unsure from my reading as to whether or not the newer PCM will be able to control it. I'm pretty sure the older 46RE's don't report gear position, but I figured that wouldn't be an issue as my TJ doesn't have that dash functionality to begin with. Any ideas on whether that could be adapted, or should I just stick with the Dodge 46RE?

My Jeep uses a chipped key, but the donor does not. Will this be an issue, or will I just leave the Jeep's security wiring out of the picture?

Should I just get the SYE thing out of the way now? I assume I'm going to need custom length driveshafts anyway with the AA motor mounts, so it seems prudent to do it now rather than later.

That's all I've got at the moment, but I may have more questions later on. I just want to build up as much of knowledge base as possible before I get started.

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AlaskanTJ said:
I'm looking to get started on swapping a 5.9 Magnum into my TJ in the next couple months, and I wanted to try and get answers to some questions I haven't been able to answer just from scouring various forums. Here's what I'm working with to start with:

2001 TJ Sport
4.0 Auto
Dana 44 Rear
4 in lift with T-case drop brackets

Donor Vehicle is a 2003 Ram 1500 5.9 Auto

Some initial questions I have:
The Ram has functional Cruise Control, but my TJ did not come with it. Am I going to need to add wiring on the body side to get it to work, and would I need a newer year's steering wheel? Could I use the Dodge's, as silly as that would look?

I was able to get a ZJ 46RE for free, but I am unsure from my reading as to whether or not the newer PCM will be able to control it. I'm pretty sure the older 46RE's don't report gear position, but I figured that wouldn't be an issue as my TJ doesn't have that dash functionality to begin with. Any ideas on whether that could be adapted, or should I just stick with the Dodge 46RE?

My Jeep uses a chipped key, but the donor does not. Will this be an issue, or will I just leave the Jeep's security wiring out of the picture?

Should I just get the SYE thing out of the way now? I assume I'm going to need custom length driveshafts anyway with the AA motor mounts, so it seems prudent to do it now rather than later.

That's all I've got at the moment, but I may have more questions later on. I just want to build up as much of knowledge base as possible before I get started.

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First off welcome to the forum.

Where in AK? Lived in Barrow as a kid and stationed @ Ft Richardson in the early 80's.

We need the build date on your TJ. Jeep switched between CCD bus and PCI bus mid year 2001.
That will determine if the PCM from the truck will work in your Jeep.

The year of the transmission doesn't matter.
You'd need to wire the Jeep for CC. And as far as I know the Ram steering wheel wouldn't work.

Don't do the SYE until you're ready to do the swap. You might or might not need to change your driveshaft length.

You do want to do a body lift for transmission clearance.
 
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i thought the 5.9 was too wide for the rails, or was that what your last motor was @Wildman
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5.9 is the same size as the 5.2. Only difference between them is the drivers side motor mount.
And yes the engine that the block cracked was a 5.9 with a stroker kit. Making it a 6.7.

5.2's rev faster where the 5.9 revs slower plus runs warmer.
 
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Wildman said:
First off welcome to the forum.

Where in AK? Lived in Barrow as a kid and stationed @ Ft Richardson in the early 80's.

We need the build date on your TJ. Jeep switched between CCD bus and PCI bus mid year 2001.
That will determine if the PCM from the truck will work in your Jeep.

The year of the transmission doesn't matter.
You'd need to wire the Jeep for CC. And as far as I know the Ram steering wheel wouldn't work.

Don't do the SYE until you're ready to do the swap. You might or might not need to change your driveshaft length.

You do want to do a body lift for transmission clearance.
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I live in the MatSu area, so nowhere near Barrow, but not far from Ft Rich. I'll have to check on the build date when I'm back home, but if I had a CCD bus what would that entail? Major harnesses changes? Just the PCM? As for the SYE, I meant should I do it as part of the swap, not as something to be done before.
 
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AlaskanTJ said:
I live in the MatSu area, so nowhere near Barrow, but not far from Ft Rich. I'll have to check on the build date when I'm back home, but if I had a CCD bus what would that entail? Major harnesses changes? Just the PCM? As for the SYE, I meant should I do it as part of the swap, not as something to be done before.
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The difference if it's CCD or PCI would be a different PCM.
Or swapping out the wiring harness.

PCM swap is much easier.

I'd forgotten to mention your chipped key question.
If you connect a PCM that doesn't have security enabled it will do so once connected.
As far as I know you can't turn the security off once enabled.

And with the auto swap most times you don't need new driveshafts but better safe than sorry.

There's a thread on JeepForum about doing the Magnum swap. I'll post a link for it once I'm home.
Plus a couple others.

If you have any more questions please ask.
 
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Wildman said:
The difference if it's CCD or PCI would be a different PCM.
Or swapping out the wiring harness.

PCM swap is much easier.

I'd forgotten to mention your chipped key question.
If you connect a PCM that doesn't have security enabled it will do so once connected.
As far as I know you can't turn the security off once enabled.

And with the auto swap most times you don't need new driveshafts but better safe than sorry.

There's a thread on JeepForum about doing the Magnum swap. I'll post a link for it once I'm home.
Plus a couple others.

If you have any more questions please ask.
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So does that mean my Jeeps chipped key will assign itself in the Dodge's PCM? Also I've been collecting forum post bookmarks, so I'll take any useful ones.
 
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AlaskanTJ said:
So does that mean my Jeeps chipped key will assign itself in the Dodge's PCM? Also I've been collecting forum post bookmarks, so I'll take any useful ones.
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I've never done it so I'm not 100% sure but that is what I've read.

I've got a lot of Magnum information to share.
I did my first swap in 2006.
 
AlaskanTJ said:
Just checked the door sticker, Sept 2000 is the build date. Where does that fall?
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That means it's a CCD bus. Which means the PCM from your 2003 truck won't work.
You need a 2001.5 or older PCM. Year doesn't matter but you want it from a base model truck.
 
Also I can't find anything online about there being a mid-year split when it comes to CCD to PCI. If nothing else I suppose I could pull the gauge cluster to look for the CCD vs PCI wiring, but it doesn't seem like it should be a CCD bus.
 
AlaskanTJ said:
Also I can't find anything online about there being a mid-year split when it comes to CCD to PCI. If nothing else I suppose I could pull the gauge cluster to look for the CCD vs PCI wiring, but it doesn't seem like it should be a CCD bus.
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It's for sure CCD until 2001 and then PCI after. I've read that it was a mid year split between the two but don't remember right now where I'd read this.
This chart says CCD until 2000 and PCI 2001 & later. Again II can't confirm there is a mid year split but it's what I'd read. Also you can't use a 1997 Ram PCM since the gauges won't work but it will run. So you have to use a 1998-2000 PCM. The GOOD news is that you can use a 5.2 PCM (which are easier to find) but then have to have a 5.9 tune flashed onto it.

Protocol List By Vehicle:

RamDurango
YearBusEnginesYearBusEngines
1996CCD3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L
1997CCD3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L
1998CCD3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L1998CCD3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L
1999CCD3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L1999CCD3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L
2000CCD3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L2000CCD4.7L, 5.2L, 5.9L
2001CCD3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L2001PCI4.7L, 5.9L
2002PCI3.7L, 4.7L, 5.9L2002PCI4.7L, 5.9L
2003PCI3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L, 5.9L2003PCI4.7L, 5.9L
2004PCI3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L2004CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L
2005PCI3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L, 8.3L2005CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L
2006CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L, 8.3L2006CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L
2007CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L2007CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L
2008CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L2008CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L
2009CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L2009CAN3.7L, 4.7L, 5.7L
DakotaWrangler
YearBusEnginesYearBusEngines
1996CCD2.5L, 3.9L, 5.2L1996
1997CCD2.5L, 3.9L, 5.2L1997CCD2.5L, 4.0L
1998CCD2.5L, 3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L1998CCD2.5L, 4.0L
1999CCD2.5L, 3.9L, 5.2L, 5.9L1999CCD2.5L, 4.0L
2000CCD2.5L, 3.9L, 4.7L, 5.9L2000CCD2.5L, 4.0L
2001PCI2.5L, 3.9L, 4.7L, 5.9L2001PCI2.5L, 4.0L
2002PCI2.5L, 3.9L, 4.7L, 5.9L2002PCI2.5L, 4.0L
2003PCI3.9L, 4.7L, 5.9L2003PCI2.4L, 4.0L
2004PCI3.7L, 4.7L2004PCI2.4L, 4.0L
2005CAN3.7L, 4.7L2005PCI2.4L, 4.0L
2006CAN3.7L, 4.7L2006PCI2.4L, 4.0L
2007CAN3.7L, 4.7L2007CAN3.8L
2008CAN3.7L, 4.7L2008CAN3.8L
2009CAN3.7L, 4.7L2009CAN3.8L


https://www.hotwireauto.com/chrysler-harnesses
 
That's the chart I saw, and the service manual suggests it's correct in 2001 being PCI. Are there any easier spots to check the wiring than the cluster that come to mind? I'd really like to able to verify this so I can confirm that I don't need a different PCM.
 
AlaskanTJ said:
That's the chart I saw, and the service manual suggests it's correct in 2001 being PCI. Are there any easier spots to check the wiring than the cluster that come to mind? I'd really like to able to verify this so I can confirm that I don't need a different PCM.
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I'm not sure what to check to be honest. You'd have to look at a 2000 or older wiring diagram & a 2001 or newer wiring diagram to find the difference.

CCD is a two wire bus & PCI is a single wire bus if memory is serving me correctly.

Here's the Magnum Swap thread: https://www.jeepforum.com/threads/wrangler-magnum-v8-discussion.1365878/

This is one where he started with a 5.9 in his TJ : https://www.jeepforum.com/threads/m...ps-my-stroker-wiped-its-cam-bearings.1516649/

Another Magnum Swap : https://www.jeepforum.com/threads/ugly-betty-tj-magnum-v8-conversion-and-more.1442986/

Here's another one : https://www.jeepforum.com/threads/wiring-help-identification-5-9-swap-97-tj-lj.1525273/

And on blending the two wiring harnesses together, there are only 19 wires that have to be blended. I'll post my cheat sheets later.
 
AI info

The Jeep TJ switched from the Chrysler Collision Detection (CCD) bus to the Programmable Communications Interface (PCI) bus in the 2001 model year.
  • 1997–2000 Models: Use the CCD bus for communication between the engine controller and the instrument cluster.
  • 2001–2002 Models: Transitioned to the PCI bus (identifiable by a violet/yellow wire).
  • 2003–2006 Models: Moved to the Next Generation Controller (NGC) which utilized the PCI bus, transitioning toward CAN bus systems by 2005.
Essentially, 2000 was the last year for CCD, and 2001 was the first full year for the PCI bus in the Wrangler TJ.

Hypothetical question regarding CCD / PCI BUS and a V8 swap​


TJ Magnum Swap Bible​


This was a forum member & he did the Magnum swap. He was a MoPar mechanic and it's too bad he's not here anymore.

Project "Red Headed Stepchild" A restoration & build​

 
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