Anyone know what's going with Revolution axle shafts?

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Anyone know what's going with Revolution Axle shaft - I'm in the market for a set of rear axle shafts. The Revolution Kit RAK44-1 appears to be out of stock pretty much everywhere. Called around in the area but the vendors don't stock parts these days, everything is drop shipped from the supplier.

Any recommendation for alternatives to Revolution or should I wait for the parts to be back in stock?
 
The only source for the Revolution Gear & Axle U.S.-made TJ axle shafts is Revolution. These axle shafts are based on a design by now-defunct Superior Axle and manufactured by Foote Axle & Forge, LLC in Los Angeles.

The Revolution imported TJ axle shafts are exactly the same as the axle shafts imported by all the major vendors and come from the same foundries in India. The only differences are the labels on the product and the warranties/customer service offered by the retailers.

RG&A has had supply issues in the past which were eventually resolved. However, their time estimates have frequently been overly optimistic. Best to contact RG&A directly with any questions and take any time estimates with a grain of salt.

If you need axle shafts right now I recommend that you contact Ron Stobach at Carbon Offroad. Ron has been in the jeep aftermarket axle business for more than 30 years, knows his stuff, and treats his customers well.

https://carbonoffroad.com/
 
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Revolution seems to have a big issue with their axle shafts being available. They seem to regularly go out of stock and take forever to come back in stock.

It must be a supplier issue or something, but when I ordered mine it took 3 months if I remember correctly.
 
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They had a problem with the latest run of USA made rears they received. The USA made axles aren't going to be available until the problem is resolved and they get another batch in. I got the USA made fronts but had to go with the imported Discovery series for the rears.
 
They are making parts for a vehicle that is quickly turning into an enthusiast vehicle. They probably make to order, vs making to stock. They'll get enough orders for a batch then run that batch plus ten or twenty percent. Keeps their inventory and manufacturing costs lower.

That's how I would do it anyway..
 
Revolution seems to have a big issue with their axle shafts being available. They seem to regularly go out of stock and take forever to come back in stock.

It must be a supplier issue or something, but when I ordered mine it took 3 months if I remember correctly.

I ordered mine few months ago and got them pretty much right away
 
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Are they stamped Foote on the ears?
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RGA axle shafts on my TJ
 
I wanted to get Revolution US made (Foote) and I could not find them when my Jeep was in the shop for the re-gear. I ended up getting Yukon ones. Wish I had known about carbon off-road that @Mr. Bills posted above, would have bought from them instead.
 
They are making parts for a vehicle that is quickly turning into an enthusiast vehicle. They probably make to order, vs making to stock. They'll get enough orders for a batch then run that batch plus ten or twenty percent. Keeps their inventory and manufacturing costs lower.

That's how I would do it anyway..
Not really. They are getting screwed over by Foote. They messed up the last order which they also delayed by several months.
 
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Ron Stobach at Carbon Offroad
Not trying to bash, but why pay more for Carbon Off-Road when the same guy owned/started Alloy USA/Motive/Ten Factory? I would assume the process/supplier network for Carbon is the same as the previous companies they started. If they are the same, it's like you are paying for a different sticker.
 
Not trying to bash, but why pay more for Carbon Off-Road when the same guy owned/started Alloy USA/Motive/Ten Factory? I would assume the process/supplier network for Carbon is the same as the previous companies they started. If they are the same, it's like you are paying for a different sticker.
He was the head of Drivetrain Direct which was supplied by Foote at the same time as Superior. In fact they were in adjoining buildings in Corona. Superior on one side, Drivetrain Direct on the other. He left there and started Alloy USA with an overseas feller providing the backing. Alloy ran into some issues, he hopped over to Ten Factory and Omix bought the scraps of Alloy and revived it.
 
Looks like it's a pretty small world when it comes to axle shafts and R/P gears.
There are few forging houses that make shafts. Very few in the US, most in the aftermarket are in India. Or put another way, most of the big places are at full capacity making stuff for the OEM side and don't wander much into the aftermarket. Ron's specialty is marketing as you can tell by the names he's come up with, Alloy USA which was brilliant in that almost none of their stuff was actually US made. Then came Ten Factory. Who the hell knows what that means but it sounds cool and that's all that matters and now Carbon. Well no shit, without carbon and the manipulation thereof, we have no steel, but astute marketing nonetheless. He also figured out the secret to selling to offroaders. Supply a ridiculous warranty with very little increase in strength for the shafts knowing full well that the vast majority of your customers will never break because they never broke their stock stuff. In fact, you could supply most of them with the equivalent to stock stuff and never get hurt.

Then when someone actually does work stuff hard enough to break it, have them send in a pic, overnight them another axle shaft and then the internet loses its mind over how cool your warranty is. The problem with that for us that need the stronger stuff, it has ruined a few trips for folks because the warranty don't get you home or even off the trail.