LOL I'm just a n00b but I've seen mrblaine all over this forum and didn't know he designs the Savvy stuff. I'm a GAINT fan of that Savvy bumper. Been window shopping it even before I bought my Jeep which that probably now seals the deal that I will get that one when enough funds appear in my Jeep parts fund account.
I do like their bumper too, I'm running one myself. Sorry those recovery points on my bumper are no longer available.
Can you explain how moving the fairlead back makes for a better approach angle?
The roller fairlead/hawse doesn't protrude out as far which is why Blaine designed it that way. Same with the Safety Thimble holder (above) which was designed like that for the same reason. For typical offroading it's no big deal but in some really tough situations it helps.
Know that I am a Savvy bumper fan. Im just trying to understand your approach angle comment.
Hey man I know what you're trying to ask but I guess to the hardcore off roaders anything that sticks out the perimeter of the Jeep matters. To me that "approach angle" were talking about here is pretty extreme. But I get what both of you guys are talking about.
That drawing doesn't explain or illustrate the problem their designs help with. Savvy TRE explains it it well at https://www.tacticalrecoveryequipment.com/product/safety-thimble-fairlead/
sorry for the quick graphic job but here you go:
The roller fairleads stick out a fair bit past the front of the bumper. There is a dual set of holes in the winch deck so you move it forward for a hawse style or slide it back for a roller style.
They made it into production. Then some fucktard had them on his bumper with no winch and nosed down into a big muddy ditch and got stuck. Instead of hooking onto the rear of the rig, they hooked onto a shackle stuck in the front recovery point at a fairly extreme angle. Then after it was bent around to the side (without failing) they posted up pics on JF about it bending and only after some pointed queries did they admit they had not done things correctly. Since we could not control how dumb folks act, they were discontinued since they require a modicum of common sense to use correctly.
They should not be optional.
You can push a roller fairlead out far enough that it does effect approach angle. It will be the first point of contact with a rock face before the bumper.
Not only the same but made from 5052 or similar lower strength aluminum. You can tell by the bends.
I’m sorry to ask as I know you’ve addressed this in the past but, how do you tell the difference in material based on bends?
