1st pic is the base of cadillac, it has since been repaired from that pic, my dad broke spring perches on his cj5 shortly after that pic, 2nd pic is big sluice, there was a big hole I had just come out of and the rocks in the front have been moved since then. And yes you need to run the con, I live 2 hours from it, and an hour from fordyce. Be cool if one day the forum did a meetup for the con or fordyce. The spring on cadillac is actually all the way at the top above the scenic lookout.