Best places to retire?

Spend time at the worst time of the year where ever you're thinking about going

This is what I’ve been thinking. 2 months in coldest season, maybe a month in hot season. I wanna sell the house and go rent a house for year somewhere and then who knows
 
Altitude makes a difference in the West. In Az Flagstaff and Pine top areas are temperate. Prescott is a mini Orange County. Southern Az has some elevation and is a little cooler in the summer. My place in Meadview Az is 3k ft and not too bad weather wise but it’s far from the niceties of Civilization. I’m at 1500ft here in SoCal and even though it gets into the 100s it cools down to the 70s at night.
The best is to start planning early and take trips to your areas of interest to get the lay of the land. One man’s Nirvana is another man’s Hell.
 
If you decide on moving to thailand.

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. Prescott is a mini Orange County.

Climate or politically or the number of Cali immigrants? Will see 100 a few times, lows in the teens, 6-20 inches of snow at once not uncommon. You can open carry here no permission or permit needed if that's important. Noticeably more traffic than 6 years ago and no end in sight. Endless places to drive a jeep on dirt in all directions. Real estate is not cheap.
 
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Climate or politically or the number of Cali immigrants? Will see 100 a few times, lows in the teens, 6-20 inches of snow at once not uncommon. You can open carry here no permission or permit needed if that's important. Noticeably more traffic than 6 years ago and no end in sight. Endless places to drive a jeep on dirt in all directions. Real estate is not cheap.

We considered Prescott area when we were looking. Definitely on the expensive side. We're loving Sierra Vista down here in South East Arizona.
 
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The wife and I will probably do Wyoming or the Black Hills of SD, and winter in the south.

My daughters are wildcards. They aren't settled yet. One daughter is in Arizona, and the second daughter will do Texas or Florida (Oregon educational system made them strongly dislike the socialist agenda). If they ended up within 500 miles of each other, then my wife will want to live somewhere in the middle.

Hopefully, we will figure this out in the next few years because Oregon is beautiful, but politically unbearable.
 
Climate or politically or the number of Cali immigrants? Will see 100 a few times, lows in the teens, 6-20 inches of snow at once not uncommon. You can open carry here no permission or permit needed if that's important. Noticeably more traffic than 6 years ago and no end in sight. Endless places to drive a jeep on dirt in all directions. Real estate is not cheap.

Traffic and more traffic. I lived down in Yarnell in the early 80s and spent a lot of time in the Prescott area, Jerome and the Verde Valley. Verde Hot Springs is one of my favorite places on Earth. Wide open back then. Chino Valley was open country.some of the best parties I ever went to were in Jerome. A mixture of Cowboys, Miners, Crystal People from Sedona and various people running away from something. Good times. Too many people now.
 
Was the Hot Springs clothing optional BITD? It's been taken over by squatters or whatever you call them. We were going to go last fall but it sounds too sketchy. You were here before the area was discovered for sure. Had to look up Meadview, looks like you found solitude.
 
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Was the Hot Springs clothing optional BITD? It's been taken over by squatters or whatever you call them. We were going to go last fall but it sounds too sketchy. You were here before the area was discovered for sure. Had to look up Meadview, looks like you found solitude.

Yep clothing optional. It was a local secret with a sketchy road going in to the power plant. The unwritten rule at the time was no telling Assholes about it. Met some nice people there back in the day. We used to ride the flumes leading to the power plant. About a mile ride through the pipes. I hear the plant was shut down. Too bad people have to fuck things up. The thing that I liked about Meadview is back in the day there was no cell or pager service unless you had a phone from the local provider in Kingman. I was on call 24/7 at the hospital I worked at and it was the only place where they could not get ahold of me. I could see the end of the end of the Grand Canyon from the house and take the Jeep for miles and miles of of off roading. Going to visit friends there next week and ride the trails.
 
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The power plant was shut down because it was so old and inefficient etc, not because people were a-holes. That allowed the water to flow in the creek again instead of the flume and restore the creek to pre-power plant , not a bad thing. The bad thing is so many people were going to the headwater springs and camping it got trashed so now there are a restricted number of permits per day to go there. We hiked into the headwaters from the Strawberry side trailhead maybe 15 years ago and things were pretty worn down then, that was before they took the flume out.
 
Glad I had the opportunity to experience it. We use to be able to ride our ATCs in the local mountains until they started renting them out in Big Bear and the assholes started cutting their own trails though the forest. I’ve seen the same thing now with 4wheelers. Once one guy goes off trail the next guy sees the tire marks and follows. 1% can screw it up for the rest of us.
 
That’s why todays generation is fucked. According to them you need to make $115/hr single or $57/hr for a couple. This kind of money can be had here in Ca but you need the right skills or the right college degree. Most of todays generation don’t want to put in the work to get these. They want to do as little as possible and get paid big $. A degree in Women Studies, Political Science or other worthless degrees will in most cases not get a high paying job. Find a good paying job and figure out what you need to do to get it. Only job you start at the top is digging a hole. Bottom line is a person has to take responsibility for their future.
 
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