Get us some pictures of your front suspension, that will help alot!Setup or behavior?
Get us some pictures of your front suspension, that will help alot!Setup or behavior?
No, it's just categorizing Death Wobble as triggered by a constant cause with otherwise tight parts (like your wife's low tire you once mentioned) or dormant with loose/worn parts that's triggered by a bump or whatever...if you think about , I'm right. I realize it can be soooo much more , but that's a good starting point for a layman...by a layman.You are creative, I'll give you that. Is that like micro vibrations that the MC bushings eliminate and micro aggressions we all exhibit towards the disenfranchised?
Or is it more like Jumbo Shrimp? Wait, wait, I got it, it's like the track bar lever arm, right?
Dormant and passive, awesome.No, it's just categorizing Death Wobble as triggered by a constant cause with otherwise tight parts (like your wife's low tire you once mentioned) or dormant with loose/worn parts that's triggered by a bump or whatever...if you think about , I'm right. I realize it can be soooo much more , but that's a good starting point for a layman...by a layman.
And so I used the wrong term for how the track bar works, I was also right that the worn upper right bushing mount can act essentially the same as a loose for worn track bar. Same net effect.
I also call it DWWTH- death wobble waiting to happen. This doesn't cover all the bases and the weird wild stuff, but it helped me grasp a little of it.Dormant and passive, awesome.
Now that I think about it, I think one of the rear tires was a bit out of balance before I rotated. However the DW also started happening before the rotation. I’ll definitely look into getting them balanced.
I am on a wheeling trip with spotty connection, but I will update with pics and read through a bit more thoroughly when I get home Sunday night.Get us some pictures of your front suspension, that will help alot!
I think I get what you’re saying. And yes, the death wobble I’m experiencing is only triggered by a big bump in the road.I also call it DWWTH- death wobble waiting to happen. This doesn't cover all the bases and the weird wild stuff, but it helped me grasp a little of it.
Perhaps, but consider this for a moment. If there is accuracy contained in the DWWTH statement, then every single TJ on the road is afflicted with it.I think I get what you’re saying. And yes, the death wobble I’m experiencing is only triggered by a big bump in the road.
There usually is if things are worn or loose. Really all coil spring track bar vehicles are candidates..check out any Dodge or F250 forum.Perhaps, but consider this for a moment. If there is accuracy contained in the DWWTH statement, then every single TJ on the road is afflicted with it.
I also call it DWWTH- death wobble waiting to happen. This doesn't cover all the bases and the weird wild stuff, but it helped me grasp a little of it.
It is the inability of the locating components to prevent precession in the spinning assemblies.It’s generally either bad tires, loose crap or some of both. How’s that?
Last comment... not all tire shops will take the time to balance big tires like ours perfectly. They only get them to what they consider to be "good enough" which for a big tire on a TJ is never good enough. You have to convince the shop to spend the time to get them 'PERFECT'. Sometimes a promised $10-20 tip to the tire jock doing the balance if they come out perfect is enough to do the trick.
I follow you. I know you have seen a lot of scenarios and understand way more about the forces at play.It is the inability of the locating components to prevent precession in the spinning assemblies.
I have produced DW on a rig with everything tight and perfect including tire balance.
I have produced DW on a rig that had so much slop in the front end that when I removed it, DW occurred.
In other words, there is not a pat answer. The system needs to be diagnosed and then the faulty components replaced when found.
I have seen terrible tires not cause it and perfectly balanced tires cause it. I put the perfectly balanced tires on the rig with DW and they came off of a rig without as a test.