Damn, here we go again!
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Yep, I noticed that. Interesting. In addition to the engine, possibly the front bumper and winch pulling it down some too, about 120lb. An advantage for the 4 angry squirrels!
This is actually pretty interresting, because I thought the H&R didn't actually lift the truck at all, and from what I was hearing the OME was going to give 2.5. This information is good and should probably be put up somewhere.
2003 Sport, 4.0L, 5sp. w/hard top, full tank of fuel, no back seat, on 33x1050x15's.
LF- 18.25"
LR- 18.75"
RF- 18.25"
RR- 18.50"
10 year old OME springs, 933's, 942's with 3/4" coil spacers.
LF- 18.25"
LR- 18.75"
RF- 18.25"
RR- 18.50"
10 year old OME springs, 933's, 942's with 3/4" coil spacers.
Looks like you have a 1/4 inch offset on one side. I wonder what it was new. Does that co-inside with the quarter inch diff on the new springs?
Looks like all 3 of us are sagging a tick on the right rear. Last I measured the spring height, all 4 springs have sagged by 1/4". That's not bad considering the age with 115K miles on them. Based on our raw data, the H&R springs seem to be keeping the jeep just as level as the OME springs do, so I'm not sure what's behind the spring height offset of he OME's. Maybe a call to ARB can shed some light.
In researching myself without making any calls I found that the H&R were progressive springs like they use in BMW's, and they get as good of reviews as the OME. I only really went OME, because of the slight more lift, but looking at this data, It looks like I would have been in the same boat with either spring. Although I bet the H&R are built for a stockish TJ where the HD OME's might have slight advantage having new bumpers and winch maybe. Not saying anything against H&R and it probably doesn't make any difference but you will get the same spring weather you add weight or not where as OME you have a choice of two different springs.
Also OME weirdly offers two different front shocks but if you order the kit you only get the light duty front shocks, but since I went heavy duty all of the way around I ordered the heavy duty front shocks. Another good reason to order in pieces rather than a kit. It was actually cheaper to order it in pieces than it was the kit and the kit had parts I didn't need like the new steering stabalizer. I already have an OME one.
Also OME weirdly offers two different front shocks but if you order the kit you only get the light duty front shocks, but since I went heavy duty all of the way around I ordered the heavy duty front shocks. Another good reason to order in pieces rather than a kit. It was actually cheaper to order it in pieces than it was the kit and the kit had parts I didn't need like the new steering stabalizer. I already have an OME one.
I'm not sure what the H&R advertising is all about. The usual lift is from an 1" to an 1-1/2" for a set of H&R springs. That's the range that's been pretty consistantly reported across the interwebs.
It would be interesting to get someone with stock springs in good shape to report what their measurements are.
Nitro front shocks that come with the kit
60046 Nitro front shock 107.35
HD front shocks
60047 Nitro front shock 107.35
link to your choice
https://www.quadratec.com/products/16091_104X_PG.htm
Click the Select button then look above the price
Nice Pic!
Well, it's been 10 years since I bought my OME kit, so interesting that they have a LD/HD shock option. Wonder what the differences are? Different valve setup?
I couldn't find that exact info other than it is for a little more weight and since I have the winch and bumper that would justify this shock. I read a forum thread where they have the same set up as I just ordered and they loved it, so I took their word for it and went for it. I figured a bundled kit would have to appeal to the masses so the lighter shocks probably would have worked but I thought if I ever do disconnect the front discos and with the weight of the winch I would probably appreciate a little stiffer shock in the front end. And if I don't like them, I will try the bilsteins next time. but I found that for the most part most people liked both more people said that the bilsteins were more stiff than anybody complained at all about the Nitro sport shocks. So i figured I would try these first. And who knows maybe in 10 years when I have replaced them 3 times, I will have good information for a new TJ owner like you.
If we’d all measure our springs we’d know the true lift of the H&R and the OME on our rigs. The measurements we took near the LCA frame brackets have too many variables to know true lift. Last time I checked with my hardtop on
LF 14 3/4”
LR 11 3/8”
RF 14 3/4”
RR 11 3/8”
That’s 2 3/4” up front and 3 3/8” in rear. I don’t think I believe that anymore. I’ll get a current measurement.
LF 14 3/4”
LR 11 3/8”
RF 14 3/4”
RR 11 3/8”
That’s 2 3/4” up front and 3 3/8” in rear. I don’t think I believe that anymore. I’ll get a current measurement.
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