Just food for thought to all. Comparing 20 yrs ago to today doesn't work, because our feelings and our bodies are different. I'm now about 70 and over my life time I've owned 15-20 different jeeps. My brain says something and my body says something else. I've had the comfort of a 4 door jeep, but I still bought another 2004 2 door Rubicon and I love it. Stupid is as stupid does