Identifying internal frame rust with endoscope

Westtown Willy

Westtown Willy

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So last year I Eastwooded the inside of my frame. When I finish a day of wheeling I stop at a do it yourself car wash at the bottom of the mountain & blow all the crap off the Jeep & flush the rails also with the power washer. Well, in doing so I’ve inadvertently blown some of the Eastwood off by sticking the nozzle in there on full blast. I didn’t realize it until it was too late, I just happened to look through one of the large round holes in the frame (one of the entry points for the power washer) when I noticed the black coating was gone in the exact spots where the nozzle goes in. So I have to re-do all the entry points.

Since noticing that a few months ago I carry a 2 foot section of garden hose & I put the nozzle in there then fish the hose into the frame & pull the trigger just enough to get a nice easy flow of water which is sufficient to flush out any mud & silt; no more direct high velocity water hitting the rails.

Anyway I had never heard of an endoscope camera attachment until seeing some pictures taken by them on the forum. I wanted to be able to identify all the areas that needed to be redone plus I really wanted a good look inside there to check the status of the frame in general so I ordered a cheap one on Amazon for $33; it showed up today & here’s some shots I took, going to spend some more time over the weekend to really cover the entire frame from end to end on both sides. So far though I think it’s looking pretty good. Checked all my TC bolts, all solid. By the way this would be a great tool for someone TJ hunting, super easy way to get a quick look deep inside the frame in addition to sticking your finger in there & feeling.

Here's the link to the endoscope camera I ordered: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYTHWK4/?tag=wranglerorg-20

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Westtown Willy said:
So last year I Eastwooded the inside of my frame. When I finish a day of wheeling I stop at a do it yourself car wash at the bottom of the mountain & blow all the crap off the Jeep & flush the rails also with the power washer. Well, in doing so I’ve inadvertently blown some of the Eastwood off by sticking the nozzle in there on full blast. I didn’t realize it until it was too late, I just happened to look through one of the large round holes in the frame (one of the entry points for the power washer) when I noticed the black coating was gone in the exact spots where the nozzle goes in. So I have to re-do all the entry points.

Since noticing that a few months ago I carry a 2 foot section of garden hose & I put the nozzle in there then fish the hose into the frame & pull the trigger just enough to get a nice easy flow of water which is sufficient to flush out any mud & silt; no more direct high velocity water hitting the rails.

Anyway I had never heard of an endoscope camera attachment until seeing some pictures taken by them on the forum. I wanted to be able to identify all the areas that needed to be redone plus I really wanted a good look inside there to check the status of the frame in general so I ordered a cheap one on Amazon, $33; it showed up today & here’s some shots I took, going to spend some more time over the weekend to really cover the entire frame from end to end on both sides. So far though I think it’s looking pretty good. Checked all my TC bolts, all solid. By the way this would be a great tool for someone TJ hunting, super easy way to get a quick look deep inside the frame in addition to sticking your finger in there & feeling.

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I bought the same endoscope when I did the Eastwood treatment last month. It was helpful in looking at the internal frame condition before treatment and then after the Eastwood application to make sure there was full coverage. I thought it was $30 well spent.
 
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tomtaylz said:
Do you have a link to the one you bought? :)
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sorry, I meant to put that in there

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYTHWK4/?tag=wranglerorg-20

it's wifi, so you download a free app then connect with a password that's written right on the unit, the whole thing took me about 2 minutes & it was working. It comes with a charger, I didn't realize that & when it stopped working after about 2 minutes I figured it was just another piece of junk & was about to throw it back in the box when I found the charger in the box & realized it was rechargeable. Plugged it in for a while & it worked great
 
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Chris said:
Looks like a clean frame, I’ll bet that’s a sigh of relief!
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somewhat yea, I knew it was a good one generally but it did irk me that I couldn't see in there to know for sure what was going on beyond the reach of my finger... I've removed my TC bolts a few times & they were always in good condition & really easy to take out & put back so I suspected it would be smooth in there. One area of concern I have is on the driver's side rear where it deadends at the bumper (the one shot above that has the leaf in it). That area looks a bit rough. No chunks or anything, but rough. I drilled small holes on both ends there when I did the larger ones in front of the rear control arm mounts, took a good bit of pushing to break through so I think it's got good intergrity in any event.

My plan is to get one can of Eastwood & re-shoot the large entry points where I blew the Eastwood off, each spot is about the size of a quarter/half-dollar so it's not going to take much to touch it up. I do want to do this in several coats however I'm thinking that Eastwood tube sprayer tip will get clogged up if I use part of it then put it down between coats. My experience with that stuff the first time was easier, once I cracked the lid on a can I'd spray continuously until it emptied.

Was thinking about submerging the broadcasting tip of the hose into something between coats to keep it from drying - I think all I have handy is mineral spirits, anyone know if that will that work for this purose?
 
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Westtown Willy said:
Was thinking about submerging the broadcasting tip of the hose into something between coats to keep it from drying - I think all I have handy is mineral spirits, anyone know if that will that work for this purose?
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I think that mineral spirits would work. Either that or paint thinner might work as well.
 
tomtaylz said:
https://www.eastwood.com/images/pdf/12515Z_label.pdf

Gives some instructions there for cleaning the hose.
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damn, the directions, who woulda thought to look there :D.

Jerry Bransford said:
Your frame looks good but would you please warn me before the next time you mention the use of endoscopes? :risas3:
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haha yup, until recently that's all I thought they were, imagine my surprise when I learned you could actually do something you want to do with one

Chris said:
I think that mineral spirits would work. Either that or paint thinner might work as well.
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yup, now that I've read the directions on the can :rolleyes: I'll remove the hose & run some mineral spirits through it then flip the can & shoot it until it runs clear. I just remember this stuff clogging the line almost immediately when I stopped spraying even for a short period of time. Really just trying to avoid buying more than one can this go around, already sprayed I think 5 in there, I could kick myself for fucking it up with the damn power washer
 
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Westtown Willy said:
damn, the directions, who woulda thought to look there :D.



haha yup, until recently that's all I thought they were, imagine my surprise when I learned you could actually do something you want to do with one



yup, now that I've read the directions on the can :rolleyes: I'll remove the hose & run some mineral spirits through it then flip the can & shoot it until it runs clear. I just remember this stuff clogging the line almost immediately when I stopped spraying even for a short period of time. Really just trying to avoid buying more than one can this go around, already sprayed I think 5 in there, I could kick myself for fucking it up with the damn power washer
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How often are you supposed to the Eastwood Internal Frame Coating anyways?
 
Chris said:
How often are you supposed to the Eastwood Internal Frame Coating anyways?
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I'm pretty sure it's a one time deal, it's a kind of paint & since it's in the rails it's not something that's going to get scratched off or otherwise damaged... in other words you've really got to go out of your way to damage it like I did
 
Westtown Willy said:
I'm pretty sure it's a one time deal, it's a kind of paint & since it's in the rails it's not something that's going to get scratched off or otherwise damaged... in other words you've really got to go out of your way to damage it like I did
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I’m thinking I’m going to go through the process. Peace of mind :D
 
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Westtown Willy said:
I'm pretty sure it's a one time deal, it's a kind of paint & since it's in the rails it's not something that's going to get scratched off or otherwise damaged... in other words you've really got to go out of your way to damage it like I did
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Ahh, I've never used it. I thought it was similar to Fluid Film in that it was a greasy like substance that just came off over time.
 
Westtown Willy said:
So last year I Eastwooded the inside of my frame. When I finish a day of wheeling I stop at a do it yourself car wash at the bottom of the mountain & blow all the crap off the Jeep & flush the rails also with the power washer. Well, in doing so I’ve inadvertently blown some of the Eastwood off by sticking the nozzle in there on full blast. I didn’t realize it until it was too late, I just happened to look through one of the large round holes in the frame (one of the entry points for the power washer) when I noticed the black coating was gone in the exact spots where the nozzle goes in. So I have to re-do all the entry points.

Since noticing that a few months ago I carry a 2 foot section of garden hose & I put the nozzle in there then fish the hose into the frame & pull the trigger just enough to get a nice easy flow of water which is sufficient to flush out any mud & silt; no more direct high velocity water hitting the rails.

Anyway I had never heard of an endoscope camera attachment until seeing some pictures taken by them on the forum. I wanted to be able to identify all the areas that needed to be redone plus I really wanted a good look inside there to check the status of the frame in general so I ordered a cheap one on Amazon for $33; it showed up today & here’s some shots I took, going to spend some more time over the weekend to really cover the entire frame from end to end on both sides. So far though I think it’s looking pretty good. Checked all my TC bolts, all solid. By the way this would be a great tool for someone TJ hunting, super easy way to get a quick look deep inside the frame in addition to sticking your finger in there & feeling.

Here's the link to the endoscope camera I ordered: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYTHWK4/?tag=wranglerorg-20

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I hope you have alot of Vasaline
 
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