New (to me) ride - 1996 XJ

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1996 XJ, 4.0L engine, AW4 auto trans, 208k miles, manual windows and doors, 4x4 Dana 30/Dana 35 with ABS/drum brakes. I got it for less than $1k locally. Runs and drives pretty well. I got an inspection done and everything is in good working order. Engine compression was 160 -/+10 on all cylinders. It was a state vehicle to start with, and then had one other owner for the last 15y. My previous daily driver was 1999 Mazda Protege ES. My friends think I've lost it for selling that car and buying this even older XJ with 200k+ miles. Am I nuts for getting an XJ for daily duty? My commute is ~10-12 miles a day if that matters.

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I had been driving that Protege since 2012. Bought it at 74k miles for $3800 and I put 80k+ miles in 8 years and sold it for $2400. I maintained it religiously. Pretty reliable car, decent mileage even for city driving. The reason I sold it was because I could not stand taking long drives in it anymore .. it just simply wasn't comfortable enough. It's not like I had bad shocks or balding tires. It's just a cheap car and the suspension is what it is and the cabin noise is what it is.

Car suspensions have come a long way .. I travel 2-3 times a year for work and always get some cheapo rental and have driven a smattering of your standard rentals. I work in the semiconductor industry and my a good number of my friends have newer/nicer cars and I've either driven or taken a ride in them, from Camrys to BMW/Audis to Porsches and all sorts of Crossovers/SUVs, so have a general idea of what modern cars are like today. My brother has an '07 Accord (4cyl) and I have driven quite a bit over. That car is surprisingly ages better than that Mazda.

I had been thinking about buying something like that to replace my car for a while now and finally I listed my Mazda on Craiglist and sold it recently. My plan was to daily the TJ for a while before I got another cheap car for daily use. And before you ask, yes, I like the convenience of two vehicles.

The XJ I bought popped up locally couple weeks ago and I started thinking about it. Ever since I got the TJ, I've come to realize how much nicer and comfortable it is to drive a vehicle that sits up taller with an upright seating position. I don't like modern crossovers in general (though I understand the popularity today) but even those don't have the seating position like trucks or Jeeps.

Ride quality and comfort is a complex sum of several different things - seating position, seat comfort (which is complicated in itself), suspension setup, cabin noise level, steering/cornering ease to mention a few. Each of us perceive and value these things a bit differently. In most entry level cars, while some of these can be changed to your liking, some of them you are just stuck with whatever the manufacturer gave you. So any entry level car (esp used) that you find you'll have to compromise on one thing or the other. The Hondas and Toyotas and Mazdas in the last 10-15y or so are pretty decent in most aspects - note I'm not talking about engine/features/maintenance etc - just the ride and comfort.

I thought about all this a lot and had decided to get something similar to my brothers Accord since I really had no complaint about that car. I had not really started looking but when that XJ popped up locally I wanted to check it out just out of curiosity since I was in no rush to buy.

I was pretty surprised by that XJ when I drove it. Never driven one before till now. The interior is very dated given it's before the 97 refresh (and most of my friends think the exterior is unstylish but I disagree), the tech is non-existent, but it had a lot of things I liked about it. The seating position is pretty comfortable, the entry/exit is very easy given the height, it has LOTS of visibility given the old school design and it surprisingly keeps up very well with hwy traffic, both getting to speed and maintaining that speed. This particular XJ has been reasonably well maintained so the ride is pretty decent too.. it's no Honda Accord but it drives like an older truck, firm but not harsh.

I ended up liking it and for less than $1k, I decided to buy it. It was an impulse purchase in that sense and maybe not a very logical one given I was looking for a good comfortable car for long drives.
It needs a bit of maintainence work (fluids and such) and a thorough cleaning inside (and new seat cushions and headliner and a simple stereo) but I think it's actually better than my old car for daily commute. The noise levels are about the same, the seating position is better, the shocks seem better, it accelerates faster and it's small enough to not be a hindrance parking it anywhere. Well maybe I'll hate the gas mileage.

Did I make a stupid decision buying this XJ? Thoughts welcome.
 
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For the amount you spent, there’s no way this can really be a bad purchase. You had an inspecting done beforehand, so you’ve at least ruled out anything major.
 
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I had an XJ for a DD and they are great. My mileage was a steady 18 mpg in town. They are so much smaller than they look and make zipping around town and parking a breeze. The biggest issue you will face is whether you can resist modifying it.
 
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Great pick up! I’ve been eying a few around me since I want a 2nd car with 4 doors for family reasons. My wife has a crossover that she really likes, but using my LJ with 2 kids in car seats isn’t always ideal.
 
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The good news is there is lots of information on forums including this one that will help to maintain/upgrade your XJ and just like the TJ, there is tons of aftermarket support still for them.
 
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For the amount you spent, there’s no way this can really be a bad purchase. You had an inspecting done beforehand, so you’ve at least ruled out anything major.

My trusted local mechanic deemed in to be in very good shape given the age. He says he was surprised how good the engine ran!

I had an XJ for a DD and they are great. My mileage was a steady 18 mpg in town. They are so much smaller than they look and make zipping around town and parking a breeze. The biggest issue you will face is whether you can resist modifying it.

I have a TJ that already sucks up all my money 🤣 No plans to do any mods on this at all.
 
Great pick up! I’ve been eying a few around me since I want a 2nd car with 4 doors for family reasons. My wife has a crossover that she really likes, but using my LJ with 2 kids in car seats isn’t always ideal.

I recently went to Crater lake. Two people + gear was OK. No way I could have fit another person. We would have had to rent an SUV and it gets expensive fast for a 3 day trip.
 
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The good news is there is lots of information on forums including this one that will help to maintain/upgrade your XJ and just like the TJ, there is tons of aftermarket support still for them.

Yes, and that's a great thing. I've been reading up NAXJA and Cherokee forum. These have as much a following as Wranglers do.
 
1996 XJ, 4.0L engine, AW4 auto trans, 208k miles, manual windows and doors, 4x4 Dana 30/Dana 35 with ABS/drum brakes. I got it for less than $1k locally. Runs and drives pretty well. I got an inspection done and everything is in good working order. Engine compression was 160 -/+10 on all cylinders. It was a state vehicle to start with, and then had one other owner for the last 15y. My previous daily driver was 1999 Mazda Protege ES. My friends think I've lost it for selling that car and buying this even older XJ with 200k+ miles. Am I nuts for getting an XJ for daily duty? My commute is ~10-12 miles a day if that matters.

Here's new and old.

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I had been driving that Protege since 2012. Bought it at 74k miles for $3800 and I put 80k+ miles in 8 years and sold it for $2400. I maintained it religiously. Pretty reliable car, decent mileage even for city driving. The reason I sold it was because I could not stand taking long drives in it anymore .. it just simply wasn't comfortable enough. It's not like I had bad shocks or balding tires. It's just a cheap car and the suspension is what it is and the cabin noise is what it is.

Car suspensions have come a long way .. I travel 2-3 times a year for work and always get some cheapo rental and have driven a smattering of your standard rentals. I work in the semiconductor industry and my a good number of my friends have newer/nicer cars and I've either driven or taken a ride in them, from Camrys to BMW/Audis to Porsches and all sorts of Crossovers/SUVs, so have a general idea of what modern cars are like today. My brother has an '07 Accord (4cyl) and I have driven quite a bit over. That car is surprisingly ages better than that Mazda.

I had been thinking about buying something like that to replace my car for a while now and finally I listed my Mazda on Craiglist and sold it recently. My plan was to daily the TJ for a while before I got another cheap car for daily use. And before you ask, yes, I like the convenience of two vehicles.

The XJ I bought popped up locally couple weeks ago and I started thinking about it. Ever since I got the TJ, I've come to realize how much nicer and comfortable it is to drive a vehicle that sits up taller with an upright seating position. I don't like modern crossovers in general (though I understand the popularity today) but even those don't have the seating position like trucks or Jeeps.

Ride quality and comfort is a complex sum of several different things - seating position, seat comfort (which is complicated in itself), suspension setup, cabin noise level, steering/cornering ease to mention a few. Each of us perceive and value these things a bit differently. In most entry level cars, while some of these can be changed to your liking, some of them you are just stuck with whatever the manufacturer gave you. So any entry level car (esp used) that you find you'll have to compromise on one thing or the other. The Hondas and Toyotas and Mazdas in the last 10-15y or so are pretty decent in most aspects - note I'm not talking about engine/features/maintenance etc - just the ride and comfort.

I thought about all this a lot and had decided to get something similar to my brothers Accord since I really had no complaint about that car. I had not really started looking but when that XJ popped up locally I wanted to check it out just out of curiosity since I was in no rush to buy.

I was pretty surprised by that XJ when I drove it. Never driven one before till now. The interior is very dated given it's before the 97 refresh (and most of my friends think the exterior is unstylish but I disagree), the tech is non-existent, but it had a lot of things I liked about it. The seating position is pretty comfortable, the entry/exit is very easy given the height, it has LOTS of visibility given the old school design and it surprisingly keeps up very well with hwy traffic, both getting to speed and maintaining that speed. This particular XJ has been reasonably well maintained so the ride is pretty decent too.. it's no Honda Accord but it drives like an older truck, firm but not harsh.

I ended up liking it and for less than $1k, I decided to buy it. It was an impulse purchase in that sense and maybe not a very logical one given I was looking for a good comfortable car for long drives.
It needs a bit of maintainence work (fluids and such) and a thorough cleaning inside (and new seat cushions and headliner and a simple stereo) but I think it's actually better than my old car for daily commute. The noise levels are about the same, the seating position is better, the shocks seem better, it accelerates faster and it's small enough to not be a hindrance parking it anywhere. Well maybe I'll hate the gas mileage.

Did I make a stupid decision buying this XJ? Thoughts welcome.
Awesome color
 
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1996 XJ, 4.0L engine, AW4 auto trans, 208k miles, manual windows and doors, 4x4 Dana 30/Dana 35 with ABS/drum brakes. I got it for less than $1k locally. Runs and drives pretty well. I got an inspection done and everything is in good working order. Engine compression was 160 -/+10 on all cylinders. It was a state vehicle to start with, and then had one other owner for the last 15y. My previous daily driver was 1999 Mazda Protege ES. My friends think I've lost it for selling that car and buying this even older XJ with 200k+ miles. Am I nuts for getting an XJ for daily duty? My commute is ~10-12 miles a day if that matters.

Here's new and old.

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I had been driving that Protege since 2012. Bought it at 74k miles for $3800 and I put 80k+ miles in 8 years and sold it for $2400. I maintained it religiously. Pretty reliable car, decent mileage even for city driving. The reason I sold it was because I could not stand taking long drives in it anymore .. it just simply wasn't comfortable enough. It's not like I had bad shocks or balding tires. It's just a cheap car and the suspension is what it is and the cabin noise is what it is.

Car suspensions have come a long way .. I travel 2-3 times a year for work and always get some cheapo rental and have driven a smattering of your standard rentals. I work in the semiconductor industry and my a good number of my friends have newer/nicer cars and I've either driven or taken a ride in them, from Camrys to BMW/Audis to Porsches and all sorts of Crossovers/SUVs, so have a general idea of what modern cars are like today. My brother has an '07 Accord (4cyl) and I have driven quite a bit over. That car is surprisingly ages better than that Mazda.

I had been thinking about buying something like that to replace my car for a while now and finally I listed my Mazda on Craiglist and sold it recently. My plan was to daily the TJ for a while before I got another cheap car for daily use. And before you ask, yes, I like the convenience of two vehicles.

The XJ I bought popped up locally couple weeks ago and I started thinking about it. Ever since I got the TJ, I've come to realize how much nicer and comfortable it is to drive a vehicle that sits up taller with an upright seating position. I don't like modern crossovers in general (though I understand the popularity today) but even those don't have the seating position like trucks or Jeeps.

Ride quality and comfort is a complex sum of several different things - seating position, seat comfort (which is complicated in itself), suspension setup, cabin noise level, steering/cornering ease to mention a few. Each of us perceive and value these things a bit differently. In most entry level cars, while some of these can be changed to your liking, some of them you are just stuck with whatever the manufacturer gave you. So any entry level car (esp used) that you find you'll have to compromise on one thing or the other. The Hondas and Toyotas and Mazdas in the last 10-15y or so are pretty decent in most aspects - note I'm not talking about engine/features/maintenance etc - just the ride and comfort.

I thought about all this a lot and had decided to get something similar to my brothers Accord since I really had no complaint about that car. I had not really started looking but when that XJ popped up locally I wanted to check it out just out of curiosity since I was in no rush to buy.

I was pretty surprised by that XJ when I drove it. Never driven one before till now. The interior is very dated given it's before the 97 refresh (and most of my friends think the exterior is unstylish but I disagree), the tech is non-existent, but it had a lot of things I liked about it. The seating position is pretty comfortable, the entry/exit is very easy given the height, it has LOTS of visibility given the old school design and it surprisingly keeps up very well with hwy traffic, both getting to speed and maintaining that speed. This particular XJ has been reasonably well maintained so the ride is pretty decent too.. it's no Honda Accord but it drives like an older truck, firm but not harsh.

I ended up liking it and for less than $1k, I decided to buy it. It was an impulse purchase in that sense and maybe not a very logical one given I was looking for a good comfortable car for long drives.
It needs a bit of maintainence work (fluids and such) and a thorough cleaning inside (and new seat cushions and headliner and a simple stereo) but I think it's actually better than my old car for daily commute. The noise levels are about the same, the seating position is better, the shocks seem better, it accelerates faster and it's small enough to not be a hindrance parking it anywhere. Well maybe I'll hate the gas mileage.

Did I make a stupid decision buying this XJ? Thoughts welcome.
HELL NO!
I got 450,000 out of my last one and am missing it since I sold it.
It will almost always get you there... almost.
The room, seating, and cargo space along with a very durable drive train
make the older XJs a great deal especially at sub $1K!!!
Now go through u-joints, oils, Wheel bearings, etc to be sure it's solid then drive the damn thing into the dirt!
I can help you with any weirdness you may encounter... tho many here could!
I put 2,400 a month for 4 years without a burp!
Mine was the same color, under the bedliner...
Yes, I miss it already!

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Being that we drove an '01 Protege daily for about three years, and also a '96 2-door XJ since 2012, I can relate to your situation. :)

The Protege is, IMHO, an underrated little car. The fuel economy is on par with the same era Civic and Corolla. Brakes were not as good as my Civic, and the engine just a bit more buzzy, but I felt it had a bigger cabin feel than the Civic. Consistantly got 29 mpg, too! All in all, a great little car.

The '96 XJ is, as you pointed out, a completely different animal. We love our 2-door. You're right about the interior being very dated, but some of us have an appreciation for such things. Simplicity has its place. One thing to watch for is the front seat frames cracking. It's not uncommon for the driver's side to crack, and develop the "gangsta lean". I've seen more than a few in the wrecking yards with that affliction, and our own developed it, as well. I ended up stripping the driver's seat down to the bare frame, and had it re-welded, along with some added support brackets to prevent it from happening again. And mind you, this wasn't the result of my 300 lb. carcass driving it all the time, as it my wife's daily driver, and she is less than half that weight.

Mileage on the XJ is around 14 when she drives it around town (lead foot!), and 16-17 when I do. On a trip down to Oregon, I made a point to drive it very conservatively (just to show her what kind of mileage it was capable of), and with three adults in the rig, I squeaked out a full 24 mpg out of it! Point made. ;)

Enjoy your new ride, Sri! Always loved that color!
 
Did you get lucky and get one that had a Dana 44? Also which TC, NP242 (Select-Trac) or NV231 (Command-Trac)?
 
Did you get lucky and get one that had a Dana 44? Also which TC, NP242 (Select-Trac) or NV231 (Command-Trac)?
If this was directed at me, ours is a Command-Trac and Dana 30/Dana 35 with 3.55 gears (open). Like Sri, we have ABS, as well. I see he also has the Dana 30/Dana 35 combo, but unsure of the transfer case.
 
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Being that we drove an '01 Protege daily for about three years, and also a '96 2-door XJ since 2012, I can relate to your situation. :)

The Protege is, IMHO, an underrated little car. The fuel economy is on par with the same era Civic and Corolla. Brakes were not as good as my Civic, and the engine just a bit more buzzy, but I felt it had a bigger cabin feel than the Civic. Consistantly got 29 mpg, too! All in all, a great little car.

The '96 XJ is, as you pointed out, a completely different animal. We love our 2-door. You're right about the interior being very dated, but some of us have an appreciation for such things. Simplicity has its place. One thing to watch for is the front seat frames cracking. It's not uncommon for the driver's side to crack, and develop the "gangsta lean". I've seen more than a few in the wrecking yards with that affliction, and our own developed it, as well. I ended up stripping the driver's seat down to the bare frame, and had it re-welded, along with some added support brackets to prevent it from happening again. And mind you, this wasn't the result of my 300 lb. carcass driving it all the time, as it my wife's daily driver, and she is less than half that weight.

Mileage on the XJ is around 14 when she drives it around town (lead foot!), and 16-17 when I do. On a trip down to Oregon, I made a point to drive it very conservatively (just to show her what kind of mileage it was capable of), and with three adults in the rig, I squeaked out a full 24 mpg out of it! Point made. ;)

Enjoy your new ride, Sri! Always loved that color!

Thanks @Squatch! The color is growing on me.

I don't think I have the drivers seat issue but I'll go check for sure. The cushions are very tired and I'll be getting them replaced sometime in March/April once I find a good local place with a reasonable price quote.

The Protege was a good car for me but I simply could not stand driving it anymore after 8 years. The low seating position started bothering me over the years and especially after the TJ purchase it'll all I noticed everytime I got in it. The gas mileage was pretty great though.
 
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Thanks @Squatch! The color is growing on me.

I don't think I have the drivers seat issue but I'll go check for sure. The cushions are very tired and I'll be getting them replaced sometime in March/April once I find a good local place with a reasonable price quote.

The Protege was a good car for me but I simply could not stand driving it anymore after 8 years. The low seating position started bothering me over the years and especially after the TJ purchase it'll all I noticed everytime I got in it. The gas mileage was pretty great though.

Like you I can’t stand sitting low while driving, my GMC company truck seating position is too low for me, the Fords and Dodge seats are up higher but we don’t pick our trucks, some guy in accounting does that.:confused:
 
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I drove the Mazda as a daily for three years, and then switched to a larger vehicle (Lincoln Town Car). I don't mind sitting low, but after driving the Lincoln, driving the Mazda made me realize just how small it is compared to most of the cars on the freeway. A Miata or something as a toy would be fine, but as a daily, I need some size under my arse.
 
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@Squatch The XJ feels super large after that Mazda. I parked it next to a newer Subaru Outback today and the XJ was smaller 🤣

@IPerkWVU This is my first set of KO2. I love the duratracs in my Jeep, it's going to be interesting to compare both.
 
@Squatch The XJ feels super large after that Mazda. I parked it next to a newer Subaru Outback today and the XJ was smaller 🤣

I started noticing the same thing about my XJ in parking lots. It sure feels a lot larger than it is. There are very few cars made today that are smaller. Even a new Prius is bigger at 180" in length vs the XJ's 167". It is a great example of how bloated new cars have become. The XJ was just about a perfect balance for size and utility. I suppose thats why it remained basically unchanged for it's 17 year production.