Yep. When my FIL had dairy cows, the Sire Power guy made frequent stops. You selected what you wanted from a catalog. Occasionally they would run a sale. Some of the prices they charged were insane, but it's something I wouldn't want to do.
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Yep. When my FIL had dairy cows, the Sire Power guy made frequent stops. You selected what you wanted from a catalog. Occasionally they would run a sale. Some of the prices they charged were insane, but it's something I wouldn't want to do.
I have very little knowledge of the practice/industry, but I have to ask why, why are the Amish against it? Is that a community wide thing, or just a few specific sects of Amish?
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Hey! Speaking of wolves, would you like to 'spike-up' the gene pool with some more of our hungry Canadian stock. The 'Bergmann Effect' (look it up) is in play here . . . We did ship a mix of northern Alberta & BC 'starters' to the fine folks of Wyoming and Montana. Let me know how many, and the shipping is free . . . ps Their favorites are Herford & Angus range stock.
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I'm guessing because you are messing with natural order
My understanding is was not the natural order of things. I don't know about other sects. In PA we have black bumper Amish to the Ziegenfuss Amish. The Amish farmer across the street from by BIL was shunned for using artificial means.
Like their name, black bumper Amish drive cars, but there's no shiny surfaces. Wheels and bumpers are blacked out. I was surprised when I passed a blacked out Toyota 4Runner driven by a women wearing a bonnet. They might allow artificial insemination.
The Ziegenfuss Amish, located in SW PA, think orange triangles on the back of their buggies are too much. They lobbied the state legislature to use reflective grey triangles. I doubt they use artificial insemination.
Their production yields are typically much lower than the "English" farmers, both dairy and crops.
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The biggest Tillamook County Creamery Association dairy is in Boardman, Oregon. By far.
A group has already imported wolves into the coast range from British Columbia. I have seen signs and heard them in three areas of the northern coast range. ODFW denies their existence.
Acquaintance from work raised beef and sheep on ranch on the eastern slopes. Apparently wolves went through his sheep herd like crap through a goose one night. He called ODFW and they sent a game ranger out. Ranger said "There's no wolves. Only coyotes. " Rancher said coyotes? Then I can shoot them. Ranger said no. Wolves were protected in Oregon. Huge argument ensued. Never heard how that finally turned out. He stopped losing so many sheep, though.
Those wolves from BC are BIG boys.
Elk and cougar behavior has changed some.
Yup. Some idiots from Eugene did just that. Smuggled some BC wolve in. About ten or so years ago. You guys up north have wolves that are both big and smart.
Sounds like a game ranger if I've ever heard one. I have a feeling they deny certain animals exist in a state because then the state has to set funding aside to support those programs.
Back in like 2010 we had a lady hit a mountain lion with her car two towns over from me. It was on the news and everything. Game rangers said they somehow used trail cameras and DNA to track the lion all the way from North Dakota or something.
Then about 10 years ago a guy in the town right next to mine had sheep disappearing. He got a picture of a mountain lion on a Cabela's game camera, long tail and everything. Game rangers claimed he was "mis-identifying" it as a bobcat...
Supposedly there's twenty plus packs of wolves numbering around 200 in Oregon. I've seen wolves in the northeast while hunting in Wallowa, Oregon area. You really hear them howling away at night. Wolves are a killing machine, especially in a pack where whatever they put their sites on is toast. Unlike cougars that bury their kill and feed on it repeatably, wolves kill then possibly eat some and move on the the next victim. (aka: like crap through a goose)
Not to be too dark, but what's the likelihood of wolves attacking people, like maybe hipsters wondering a park trail or maybe some druggies passed out on a suburban sidewalk? Just a matter of time kind of thing?
But...but...but, we have to save the wolves!
I think I might like wolves better than some people. At least I can trust the wolves to be honest and somewhat predictable.
I think I might like wolves better than some people. At least I can trust the wolves to be honest and somewhat predictable.
Ain't that the truth!
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Many years ago, a friend shot a pair of wolves on a bait frozen into the ice of Crooked Lake in central British Columbia. The female wolf had an Oregon tracking collar on her. He contacted authorities in Oregon, and they told him of their program, funding pull-back, and of two un-accounted tracking collared animals. Crooked Lake is some distance from Oregon.
Personally, I consider the northern Timber Wolf as the apex predator . . . smart, relentless, and social. They are out there digging through the snow to chew on that old moose hide, or feeding on that elk calf . . . or, no food at all. Fat-assed bears all snuggled down through the harshest of months.
Personally, I consider the northern Timber Wolf as the apex predator . . . smart, relentless, and social. They are out there digging through the snow to chew on that old moose hide, or feeding on that elk calf . . . or, no food at all. Fat-assed bears all snuggled down through the harshest of months.