Okay guys I have a question about sleeving my 05 Dana 44 fromt Axel. I have sleeved three JK's Dana 30s, and on the JK's they don't have an outer axle seal only inner. I know on the TJ's they have an outer and inner axle seal my question is, if I was to purchase a Nitro sleeve kit (gnarled ended) not welded to axle housing.Do I just not include the outer axle seals? Here's a pic of me and my buddies sleeving there JK
Sleeving Dana 44 axle questions
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Don't waste your time or $$$ installing inner sleeving. The math shows it doesn't help. Yes I know that sounds bogus and counterintuitive but it's true. Installing even a thin 1/8" external sleeve would be far more beneficial and provide a serious strength enhancement.
Outer seals on a TJ Dana 44/Dana 30 are of no benefit either. There's simply no need which is one reason the factory left it open. Another reason is an aftermarket outer seal on a front Dana 30/Dana 44 can hide a leaking inner seal... not good.
Outer seals on a TJ Dana 44/Dana 30 are of no benefit either. There's simply no need which is one reason the factory left it open. Another reason is an aftermarket outer seal on a front Dana 30/Dana 44 can hide a leaking inner seal... not good.
While trussing JK axles is common and often needed, it's not needed or beneficial to the TJ's front axles.
Thank you for you reply, I'll take your knowledge and pass it along to my buddies
Lol glad you understandJust nod your head when they yell and scream that I'm full of shit.
Pounded in some nitro axle sleeves while I had everything apart. Maybe not worth the time to install by themselves, but they do provide a small (~35%) benefit in flexural strength.
So I figured I might as well. They went in a lot easier than I thought they would based on all the JK videos.
So I figured I might as well. They went in a lot easier than I thought they would based on all the JK videos.
Not even that much. An external 1/8" sleeve around the outside of the tubes gives a greater strength increase than internal sleeves do. And either of those might be worth it if we needed that extra strength to run 35" tires. Because even with all that you still couldn't run anything bigger than 35" unless your Jeep is a mall crawler or never does a trail tough enough to require bigger than 35".
At a certain point stronger sleeves are worthless. Once you sleeve it, the weak point generally becomes the casting.
Here's some photos from reddit:
According to the original poster, this axle was sleeved. The weak point in this sleeved axle was the housing itself.
So I wouldn't even bother externally sleeving without a truss.
The main reason I sleeved it is I recently had a scare where I thought I bent the axle. Hit a bump very hard on the right side, enough to change the steering wheel center significantly. (Total toe didn't change. Axle is still straight.) This way I can more quickly rule out a bent axle in the future.
Here's some photos from reddit:
According to the original poster, this axle was sleeved. The weak point in this sleeved axle was the housing itself.
So I wouldn't even bother externally sleeving without a truss.
The main reason I sleeved it is I recently had a scare where I thought I bent the axle. Hit a bump very hard on the right side, enough to change the steering wheel center significantly. (Total toe didn't change. Axle is still straight.) This way I can more quickly rule out a bent axle in the future.
There are some real idiots on the trails. Maybe we need to come up with an offroad driver's license to weed out the idiots who don't have sufficient common sense to avoid doing stupid shit like the above photo shows. Similar to the ricer street racers who get ticketed for >100 mph on a main boulevard because they never thought about the possibility that there might have been a cop anywhere within hearing distance of 7,000 rpms and squealing tires.
Stupidity is far too common but avoidable with even a smidgen of thinking about the consequences of what you're about to do. Right?
Stupidity is far too common but avoidable with even a smidgen of thinking about the consequences of what you're about to do. Right?
It’s refreshing to see pictures on here of people checking bumpstops on both ends.It's rare to see IFS on an otherwise stock Jeep.