The unfortunate JKU & JLU of the day thread

That is EXACTLY my point. Those fucking things destroy and ruin everything they touch, not the least of which is critical thinking skills. Its very obvious when you're exposed to a culture where they haven't had the chance YET to do as much damage as they have here in the US. The societal and monetary costs of the smartphone and the worldwide obsession with them and catering to them is beyond massive.

I long for the days when I naively just thought of them as only an overpriced toy.
I even long for the days when I was only annoyed with the expectation that I participate in this nonsense.
But now I find myself increasingly in agreement with certain fundamentalist Christians that these things are also a spiritual peril and a "tool of Satan." I *REALLY* dislike agreeing with fundamentalist Christians about much of anything; yet here we are...



Oh, absolutely. Even though we didn't drink the water!

Although I am not a fundamentalist Christian , I think I understand your take on things . I do believe we see many things in society at large that show a decline in the good aspects of culture . Many things affect this decline , family roles being set aside for " me time " , farming your kids out to the public school machine etc.. The smartphone is a result , rather than a cause of this downward spiral in my opinion . Greed and selfishness of man is likely at the heart of the matter.
Dark spiritual forces come in to play , but the heart of man doesn't need a lot help to fall into a deep pit .
 
Although I am not a fundamentalist Christian , I think I understand your take on things . I do believe we see many things in society at large that show a decline in the good aspects of culture . Many things affect this decline , family roles being set aside for " me time " , farming your kids out to the public school machine etc.. The smartphone is a result , rather than a cause of this downward spiral in my opinion . Greed and selfishness of man is likely at the heart of the matter.
Dark spiritual forces come in to play , but the heart of man doesn't need a lot help to fall into a deep pit .

Don't forget television and video games.

You rarely see kids outside playing games anymore, not organized sports, but just kids having fun.
 
Don't forget television and video games.

You rarely see kids outside playing games anymore, not organized sports, but just kids having fun.
Let's not leave out good old fashioned corporal punishment, for when words and other hands off corrective measures don't seem to convey the message strongly enough.



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Although I am not a fundamentalist Christian , I think I understand your take on things . I do believe we see many things in society at large that show a decline in the good aspects of culture . Many things affect this decline , family roles being set aside for " me time " , farming your kids out to the public school machine etc.. The smartphone is a result , rather than a cause of this downward spiral in my opinion . Greed and selfishness of man is likely at the heart of the matter.
Dark spiritual forces come in to play , but the heart of man doesn't need a lot help to fall into a deep pit .

You couldn't be more right. I'm always bitching about how effete Americans have become - certainly accelerated by the smartphone, but not ultimately caused by same. Riding in a mini-van in Egypt - manual transmission - reminds me of the effete crap I heard in the mid-70s about automatic transmissions. That kind of shit didn't sit well with me then, and it doesn't sit well with me now - but its FAR worse now.

Etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.
 
Let's not leave out good old fashioned corporal punishment, for when words and other hands off corrective measures don't seem to convey the message strongly enough.



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A little Trupact II test . The suckers are strong ! ( Additional derailment effort ) . :)
 
I'd agree with the steering wheel, can't say I have any experience with it on a seat. There's a reason why it's used on racing wheels. (y)
I had a set of Recaro's years back that were Alcantara.. awesome in every respect. I have an Alcantara Apple Watch band and case for my iPhone.. I'm addicted to that stuff. I had the eBay guy in Poland reskin my TJ steering wheel in Alcantara.
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My second favorite for seats has to be whatever Bartact uses. That is crazy comfortable too.