Wavian NATO gas cans

jgaz

TJ Enthusiast
May 29, 2016
378
Peoria, AZ
If any one is considering purchasing the genuine, Wavian brand ,fuel can. You might want to check out this site.

https://www.roverparts.com/nxt/?Category=ACC.+-++OFF-ROAD&Subcategory=Jerry+Cans

Decent prices, especially if you purchase two, and they sell the nonCARB spouts as well.
AMAZON gets $79.95 for a single can with the stupid CARB spout.

Edit: if you register your email address you get 10% off your initial order.
 
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johnny deeker

Member
Nov 17, 2017
84
Yukon, Canada
I have had these exact cans for a winter here in the yukon. Stored them 3/4 full and outside( went to -37 c). No expansion or contraction. I use them only for long trips and use the upper bracket in the previous photo to mount two behind the backseat. No gas smell ever. As you get towards the bottom of the tank I found it best to turn them sideways when filling the jeep.
 
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TehHeep

Member
Aug 20, 2018
92
Northeast
There really is no reason to mess around with the CARB nozzle, or any nozzle, or even hold the can. You don't even have to remove the can from where its mounted in/on the Jeep; just use a super siphon to fill your tank directly out of the can wherever it is.

These are great cans.

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jgaz

TJ Enthusiast
May 29, 2016
378
Peoria, AZ
There really is no reason to mess around with the CARB nozzle, or any nozzle, or even hold the can. You don't even have to remove the can from the mount in the Jeep; just use a super siphon to fill your tank directly out of the can wherever it sits in/on the Jeep.

These are great cans.

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Yes sir. A super siphon is a great alternative to the POS CARB spouts. Or really any spout for that matter.
A little hard to completely empty the can but there’s no lifting involved.
 

TehHeep

Member
Aug 20, 2018
92
Northeast
Yes sir. A super siphon is a great alternative to the POS CARB spouts. Or really any spout for that matter.
A little hard to completely empty the can but there’s no lifting involved.
Yeah really whats left behind is inconsequential to me. I have several size super siphons, use them for a lot of nasty shit that I don't want to start a siphon on with my mouth.

Gas, Diesel/Heating Oil, Fish Tank Water, etc...
 
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DHunt

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Supporting Member
Jun 12, 2018
202
Harbison Canyon
What do you think is the main difference between the basic metal can, $35

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XJVVND6/?tag=wranglerorg-20

and the Wavian can $80

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZICYXQ/?tag=wranglerorg-20

I get the Wavian can is better because "you get what you pay for". Well, sometimes that's true. Sometimes you're paying for a name. Mil spec is where you can get a hammer for $500.

Is the plastic can completely unsuitable? I know you can't store plastic cans in the sun.
I'd like to mount inside, on the back wheel wells, so it has to be fume tight.
 

Mr. Bills

TJ Enthusiast
Nov 24, 2017
985
Area Code 530
What do you think is the main difference between the basic metal can [for] $35 . . . and the Wavian can [for] $80. . . ?

Is [a] plastic can completely unsuitable? I know you can't store plastic cans in the sun.
I'd like to mount inside, on the back wheel wells, so it has to be fume tight.
Wavian jerry cans are manufactured by Valpro and meet all NATO military standards. The cheap Chinese knockoffs have poor welds, are made from thinner steel, and frequently rust on the inside.

As far as plastic jerry cans are concerned, there is nothing wrong with the Sceptre military fuel cans (MFC's) which are very well made and can handle substantial abuse. There is also nothing wrong with Rotopax plastic cans, also manufactured by Sceptre. I have some Rotopax fuel and water cans mounted on a non-jeep 4x4 I own and while it is true that one can't fill the fuel cans to the brim and then leave them in the hot sun all day due to expansion of the fuel, that issue is remedied by only filling to the fill line molded into the can and not to the very top. Mine have lasted through 5 hot summers with no adverse effects. At 2 gal. each they are compact and easily stowed. They do not leak if you tighten them properly, even on their sides.

Only you can decide whether you are worth the additional cost of a quality product that will last. Maybe the $35 "Nato style" cans are "good enough," but maybe not. I didn't want to find out 100 miles from the closest pavement so I bought a Wavian brand can. I would have used Sceptre plastic military MFC's but for CARB shipping restrictions into California

Pictured below are my Wavian 20l gas can on the left and Pro-Quip 20l water can on the right, sourced here:

https://expeditionexchange.com/shop?keywords=jerry can&olsPage=search


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Jerry Cans 2.jpg
 
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jgaz

TJ Enthusiast
May 29, 2016
378
Peoria, AZ
What do you think is the main difference between the basic metal can, $35

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XJVVND6/?tag=wranglerorg-20

and the Wavian can $80

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007ZICYXQ/?tag=wranglerorg-20

I get the Wavian can is better because "you get what you pay for". Well, sometimes that's true. Sometimes you're paying for a name. Mil spec is where you can get a hammer for $500.

Is the plastic can completely unsuitable? I know you can't store plastic cans in the sun.
I'd like to mount inside, on the back wheel wells, so it has to be fume tight.
You are asking about the issue of fumes.
I live in Phoenix. It’s hot during the summer, (duh). I own both a Wavian 20L can and cheaper model, 5L, that I purchased from, I believe, Ohio Prep and Supply. The cheaper can seems well made. Not Wavian, but much less $.

Last summer I was going up to mountains to help a friend with a cabin build. I had both cans full. The 20L for the generator and the 5L for the chainsaw. I had both cans stored in my shed before heading up north. Outside temp was about 110’, inside the shed it was higher. When I opened the shed door I could smell gasoline. Not bad, but definately there.

I put both cans outside, aired out the shed, and over the next few days put the cans back in the shed one at a time. Temp still about 110’. There was absolutely no fumes that I could smell coming from the Wavian can. Everything I smelled was from the cheaper can. My shed is vented. I wouldn’t want my smaller can stored inside a closed vehicle.

I’ve been around the military fuel cans (Scepter) and there is nothing wrong with them if the cap gasket is in good shape. They definitely can be stored in the sun (think Middle East!).
However, in the Phoenix heat I’ve found it necessary to use a wrench to open the MFC after they were exposed to the desert heat. These caps were hand tightened when filled.

Wavian for the win IMHO.
 
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DieselJeep

TJ Enthusiast
Oct 31, 2018
188
KY
Personally I don't like the metal cans, but if you get one I suggest getting quality. I got a cheap one from Sportsmans Guide years ago and it won't fit your standard holders, because the way they did the seam around the can.

I live near a military base and get the GI/Nato cans and I LOVE these. They're $15 locally, but this is typically not the cost anywhere else I've seen them. They need s special nozzle, but so does everything else. My second choice is the Scepter cans.

Basically all of these swell when they contain gasoline, even the metal ones. Some are worse than others. I don't notice the GI ones swelling, but if someone kept gas in them enough there's a gasket at the top that will blow out. Don't vent any of these unless you have to, that's the fuel vapor you need. We have 1 gas tractor so I've played with all kinds of gas cans. I hate gasoline personally, but we have few options in the US.

Swelling/contraction causes 2 problems, when it's cold they no longer hold 5 gallons. When they swell sometimes they don't fit your holder and spray everywhere when you finally get one open. We get big temperature swings here, but mainly it's because I'll go through a bunch of gas but end up with a can or 2 left over. The RotoPax look cool, but I've never used one.

Siphons are typically the way to go for gas powered stuff. For diesel there's a different setup because there's not near the vapors, but those CARB ie spill all over the place, waste a bunch of fuel, smell like gas/diesel for days and become an instant government hater nozzles are HORRIBLE.