He Dick, this is Jane. I get that, but my original post was to the OP. I don't think his harbor freight one was a kinetic strap. Somwhere the thread got derailed. Didn't read the whole thread. I'd like a kinetic strap. Not trying to be a dick either, just messin' with ya!We are discussing kinetic ropes/snatch straps…they are more expensive and superior to regular tow straps for recovery. Not being a dick, just clarifying