So, who's rocking this setup?
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It definitely should. The guy that posted this setup claimed that he flipped them to correct the angles.I can’t comment on how good or bad the Steinjager setup is, but it appears to be incorrectly installed. I believe the drag link should be on top and the tie rod on the bottom of the steering knuckles.
He might not be entirely wrong in that regard because it looks like it puts the drag link more in parallel with the track bar. Still, I am surprised that it works at all.It definitely should. The guy that posted this setup claimed that he flipped them to correct the angles.
Is “Bump Steer Hell” a real place?
Ironically bump steer is the only thing that may not happen with that abomination. Look at the track bar bracket on the axle it looks to be dropped to get it to match the angle of the drag link. So lets just put everything in as screwed up a position as possible to correct god knows what. I cannot imagine how vague the steering must be with everything contorted the way it is.
It is pretty stupid but if you insist on ignoring that, ask yourself why the rod ends are turned to let the bodies rest against various bits on the knuckles that are flat? The answer is to stop the links from flopping down. They are using the body of the rod end to hold them up and that is fucking stupid.So, who's rocking this setup?
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Take a closer look. The important elements are the mounts for the trackbar compared to the mounts for the drag link. Parallel is indicated by the lines which connect these points. Although it cannot be directly seen in the picture, the frame side track bar mount appears to be about in the stock location. The axle side mount does apoear to be lower, but not nearly enough if the frame side is stock. The track bar is bent in such a way as to appear parrellel on the lower portion of the track bar, but that is just an illusion. That frame side track bar mount would have to be something like 2 or 3 inches lower than the stock location to function properly in this setup. But from the picture, unless I’m not seeing it, that does not appear to be the case.Ironically bump steer is the only thing that may not happen with that abomination. Look at the track bar bracket on the axle it looks to be dropped to get it to match the angle of the drag link. So lets just put everything in as screwed up a position as possible to correct god knows what. I cannot imagine how vague the steering must be with everything contorted the way it is.
No, it is done that way on purpose to mitigate bumpsteer.I can’t comment on how good or bad the Steinjager setup is, but it appears to be incorrectly installed. I believe the drag link should be on top and the tie rod on the bottom of the steering knuckles.
Yes, but not in this case.Is “Bump Steer Hell” a real place?
I don't see how it would be vague, even if the draglink flopped up and down due to maladjusted angles on the rod ends, that won't change the length between the connection points which is what it would take to have some vagueness on center.Ironically bump steer is the only thing that may not happen with that abomination. Look at the track bar bracket on the axle it looks to be dropped to get it to match the angle of the drag link. So lets just put everything in as screwed up a position as possible to correct god knows what. I cannot imagine how vague the steering must be with everything contorted the way it is.
Is the frame side track bar mount dropped, and I just can’t see it?Yes, but not in this case.
I suspect that the trackbar is some stocker they snagged to try and avoid a good adjustable. This design won't inherently deliver bumpsteer unless they fuck it up with other stuff and in fact the entire premise behind the convoluted install is to put the draglink back into the stock arrangement. However, it is Steiny so they may have taken it upon themselves to "improve" things and completely fucker it worse.Take a closer look. The important elements are the mounts for the trackbar compared to the mounts for the drag link. Parallel is indicated by the lines which connect these points. Although it cannot be directly seen in the picture, the frame side track bar mount appears to be about in the stock location. The axle side mount does apoear to be lower, but not nearly enough if the frame side is stock. The track bar is bent in such a way as to appear parrellel on the lower portion of the track bar, but that is just an illusion. That frame side track bar mount would have to be something like 2 or 3 inches lower than the stock location to function properly in this setup. But from the picture, unless I’m not seeing it, that does not appear to be the case.
Edit: Looking closer at the picture, the frame side track bar mount could be dropped, but as it is blocked by the steering gear it can’t be seen in the photo - my guess is that it is not, but that’s just a guess. But if that’s the case, why drop the axle side and necessitate and even larger drop on the frame side? I’m the first to admit I could be reading this incorrectly.