Buy a $30,000 vehicle with $40,000 worth of options and then don’t read the manual to see how it all works.
Bronco vs. Wrangler
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Buy a $30,000 vehicle with $40,000 worth of options and then don’t read the manual to see how it all works.
That is clown world money. Oh and I aint never had no car payments.
The original utility vehicles had hard-wearing leather for seats and controls.
Every leather car/ truck I have had shows wear after a couple of years plus like others stated it’s hot/ cold
Found I am better off with fabric put on a cheep seat cover change when I get tired of it then when trading car seats look like new
The operators were tougher too so they didn't need cloth seats.
metal is never gonna happen again with modern safety regulations. So would you rather have cheap, hard, noisy plastic that rattles and squeaks?
never had a carbon fiber dash but it seems like it would have similar NVH properties to hard plastic but just be more expensive. Maybe I'm crazy but I like a quiet dash and I prefer my engine noise coming from the exhaust, not through the firewall and the dash. The TJ era produced some of the worst dashboards in automotive history, not just from the TJ itself. Even the Mercedes my mom drove during that period had cheap rigid plastic dashboards and I hated them. I'll take the soft imitation leather Toyota has been using for the past 10 years or so over just about anything in the modern era. I don't really care about stitching, but whatever as long as it doesn't pull out and look like crap down the road.
oh I know, my response was broad to address the issue in general. It's not the first time everybody here suddenly hated something because Kevin likes it.
I will wait for you to show us the cookies you bake on it when you park a car with it outside in the full Florida heat
I like a nice interior. When done right all of them can be nice.
I'm not Amish though so no need to shun advancements.
Before this Jeep, I mostly had '66 and older vehicles. Never owned anything newer than '72 until now.
right. Doesn't bother me as long as it works.
I still don't use the backup cameras much. I was taught to always look with your eyes and that's a hard habit to break. If nothing else I suppose it helps me maintain flexibility in my neck.
First time I used a backup camera it was on a brand new Yukon in Alaska. I was turning around on a mountain road and ended up dropping a wheel off the road ripping the plastic under the front bumper off.
I've gotten used to them and they are handy for hooking up to a trailer or backing into a parking spot without hitting a wall or a post.
Our Benevolent OverLords have to take care of us from the cradle to the grave. But I'd rather have the hard plastic than the soft - the soft dries out and cracks in short order, the hard lasts MUCH better.
As someone who absolutely loves vintage tin, I can't believe I'm saying this...
"These guys love metal dashes, too."
"These guys love metal dashes, too."
Hard plastic? Soft plastic? Metal? What are we talking about here?
The Mercedes has soft plastic, and it was a cracked up mess the day I bought it and it was only 15 years old then. A hard plastic "Coverlay" has been on it ever since. Wife's car and the Jeep are hard plastic - and have zero problems other than not being particularly strong like metal would be.
the dashes made in the 80s were crack prone. The only cracked soft dash I've seen that was made since Y2K was my wife's 2003 4runner, and Toyota considered it such an unacceptable oddity that they created an extended warranty program to replace them. We got a free dash installed at the dealership in 2016 with 190k miles.